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AdWords is showing our ads for searches done on keywords on which we are not bidding. This is NOT a case of "expanded broad matching" or any of the other garbage about phrase matching, negative keywords etc. etc.
I guess I can't really mention specific keywords, but it's the equivalent of searching for something like "sandals," and then Google shows an ad for bathing suits.
Sure, bathing suits go with sandals, but if I'm not bidding on "sandals," why the heck would I want someone searching for sandals to click on my ad for bathing suits?
The whole point of SEM is to identify someone searching for a specific item, then making sure that they see your ad for that product. It is NOT about suggesting other related things or guessing what else the might be interested in.
So if anyone out there is wondering why the heck they're getting so many impressions....you may be showing ads for things you aren't bidding on.
This is a serious regression in functionality for advertisers who have taken the time to be more specific to improve relevance. It is also a serious blow to the search quality experience for Google's end users.
I think it is very reasonable that Google advertisers begin demanding refunds for incorrect ad placement. In my mind, it's as serious an issue as click fraud and it is time for a third party to monitor the quality of Google's matching algorithms.
I've talked more with our reps (we get a whole team of people), and get a load of this:
THEY ACTUALLY TOLD ME THAT "EXPANDED BROAD-MATCHING" WILL SHOW MY ADS FOR TERMS THAT I AM NOT BIDDING ON.
I can understand some examples of the broad matching, where a single word is the same in two different phrases....but showing my ads when someone searches on a term that I AM NOT BIDDING ON?
This is completely against PPC theory.
True, people sometimes can be "switched" to buy something they weren't looking for....but I can't learn anything from this, because I have no idea WHAT search query is triggering an ad...I'm blind.
I think the only way for google or any other engine to justify this search standard fairly is to share with customers their method of grouping...and everyone knows that ISN'T going to happen :)
It would be ideal to create a search engine that reads minds and just KNOWS what a person is searching, providing as broad or as exact results as the person is looking for..BUT until then..the engine has only the words/phrases provided to go by. Google is trying to be a mind reader..giving up relevancy for mind reading!
I've been complaining to my reps about expanded broadmatch for years. If more advertisers were aware of the harm being done to them and to users by expanded broadmatch, perhaps there would be enough of an outcry to convince Google to stop this harmful practice.
The second tier PPC services have been doing this for years to get additional traffic (which they can bill).
It seems Google has 'learnt' from them how to generate more clicks and bigger bills...
The other thing these 'other' second/third rung PPC services do ..is send a mixture of bot and human traffic.... I hope big G does not take this step....
Way to go..
look at this from their own learning center
==> Please not the the decisions we make concerning advertising in no way affect the search result we deliver.
Now go to google and pick a highly competitive market generate an advert and then search for the words in the advert verbatim.. (obviously i can't name specific ads or companies)
Right so... the long and short is that their are ADWORDS ads appearing as description CONTENT in the serps. Adwords is being served to SOME google customers as html and returning to the serps... so wheres this 'in no way affect the search results' then?
Y'know when a company has to jump up and down telling you what nice people they are you can be almost 100% assured that the opposite is the case! The humble don't screem their modesty from the rooftops!
Is it possible to come up with an ideal list of matching options? Whether or not Google's system can handle them is another story, but what would we like to have?
Going from broad to narrow:
1. Expanded Broad Match
2. Broad Match
3. True Phrase Match
-your ad shows for every query with that phrase
4. Relevant Phrase Match
-same as the current Phrase Match
5. Exact Match
Is there anything else? I would use all of those options depending on the campaign. There are times Expanded Broad Match works and there are times it doesn't. There are times the current Phrase Match is fine, but there are certain cases where it excludes too many relevant queries.
This is NOT a case of "expanded broad matching" or any of the other garbage about phrase matching, negative keywords etc. etc.
If it's not broad match, then what is it?
If this isn't a strategy to juice earnings, then maybe we'll see organic listings for sandals fill the top results when people search for bathing suits. Google might as well hand the search crown to MSN, Ask.com or yahoo!
In one campaign they 'extend broad matched' one area in south america to another 1500 miles away... a little like comparing 'skiing in the rockies' to 'surfing in california'... crazy stuff... and everyone knows there is no relationship whatsoever.
So if my team fires off one email to each to their preferred contact in Google and they each wait until they get an answer by pausing the campaign... (trust me it takes a lot of guts to pause a campaign until you hear back ... but it takes almost no time at all if you tell them you 'paused the account' )
My feeling is that just like Google specialists offering to 'optimise' your account that you get all sorts waffle but the bottom line is that a record of your comms are kept and when that reaches critical mass there will be an examination of your accounts. Stupid attempts to loosen wallets by 'extended broad match' etc. will be re-considered. Especially if they see tons of negative matches in accounts.
My advice on this particular thing is that Google ARE fluffing out their balance sheet at advertisers expense needlessly...and they know it. I know this because I know it...and I don't work for google!
That I could not care less if my competitors are taken to the cleaners by Google. In fact if I thought I could engineer a bill 'legally' of course from Google three times the normal size to my rivals then I'd do it.
So in a way its in my interest for Google to send out large bills...just not to me!
So I query everything, I never let Google 'broad match' my terms and most of them are exact matches on older accounts now anyway...only new ones are broad and even then I won't let them away with a red cent without an email full of explanation. So eventually Google will have to come up with new BS...just for me... lol