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couldn't enter keywords due to trademark

         

La_Valette

8:28 pm on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Adwords prevented me from entering some keywords today, saying that they were trademarked. This seems to be new - I thought trademarks weren't permitted in the ads, but they were ok in the keyword list...

[edited by: La_Valette at 8:29 pm (utc) on April 4, 2007]

Rehan

9:45 pm on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I thought trademarks weren't permitted in the ads, but they were ok in the keyword list...

According to the info here [adwords.blogspot.com], Google does have trademark restrictions on keywords outside of US & Canada.

La_Valette

10:01 pm on Apr 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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yup but the campaign in question is targeted at the USA only

Israel

1:13 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I had an Adgroup for the most run of the mill term running fine for 6 months. I try to add another creative with slightly different wording - trademarked!

C'mon, it referred to a general part of the world, as generic as saying, say, 'midwest'!

Ironically, they'll still run the original ad.

So it's off to MSN AdCenter with that one.

Israel

mimmo

1:43 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I found out the word 'FREE' is a trademark? How is that possible? anyone else seeing the same? thanks

La_Valette

3:03 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As I pointed out in my original post, the issue I am posting about is a trademark in the keyword list. (Trademarks being flagged in ad titles/descriptions are old news)

Rehan

3:35 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Okay, I just tried it out and I see it as well...for some trademarks, at least. Even part of the error message, "we do not allow advertisers to use '%{text}' in their keyword lists for their Google AdWords ads", doesn't look right. Someone in the QA dep't missed a few details, and this trademark behavior is probably a bug too.

[edited by: Rehan at 3:37 am (utc) on April 5, 2007]

netmeg

4:46 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Are you using Dynamic Keyword Insertion? You can't use trademark terms for DKI, because then they show up in the text, which is not allowed.

If you're not using DKI, then just request an exception.

benevolent001

5:37 am on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I am just quoting the adwords blog ,


US and/or Canada:
Keywords – we do not investigate trademark terms as keywords
Ad text – we are able to investigate the use of a trademark in ad text

Does this mean we can have trademark terms in keywords and use DKI inside US and CA to show up my ads?

Outside the US and/or Canada:
Keywords – we are able to investigate trademark terms as keywords
Ad text – we are able to investigate the use of a trademark in ad text

We cannot use trademark terms in any way?

La_Valette

2:01 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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No, I'm not using dynamic keyword insertion...

It certainly looks like a bug to me...

skunker

2:08 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This is good...too much disception going on around here.

netmeg

5:21 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Does this mean we can have trademark terms in keywords and use DKI inside US and CA to show up my ads?

I don't believe so. If you use DKI, that means the trademark terms are showing up as ad text, and that's not allowed. So all that will show is your default text, as long as that's not a trademark term. If your default text is a trademark term as well, then the ad will likely be disapproved. (That's my understanding of it - you'll have to ask them to be sure)

vinhboy

5:54 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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This blows.

La_Valette

6:11 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you use DKI, that means the trademark terms are showing up as ad text, and that's not allowed.

That would make sense, but currently Adwords is flagging the keywords as trademark terms even when DKI is NOT being used.

Israel

10:27 pm on Apr 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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So all that will show is your default text, as long as that's not a trademark term.

Netmeg,

That makes perfect sense and consistent to something I experienced.

I had an adgroup where I wanted to use a term that happened to be an archaic ethnic slur. Of course I wasn't using it as the long forgotten insult. Nowadays, it's a generic non-trademarked term to describe a modern product.

For a reason tech support had to work on for about a year, I was unable to request exceptions through the interface - just went in a loop.

I couldn't be bothered to write a history book to Adwords support to explain the circumstances, so I got the bright idea to create a DKI ad and use the term and related terms as keywords.

I patted myself on the back for my ingenuity only to find out later that searches were using the default ad text.

I don't doubt DKI handles anything impermissable that way, be it trademarked terms, forbidden words, etc.

Perhaps I should apply for a trademark for the 'slur' which hasn't been used since the early part of the 20th century ;)

However in the meantime, off to MSN AdCenter I went with that one...

Israel

netmeg

4:40 pm on Apr 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I don't doubt DKI handles anything impermissable that way, be it trademarked terms, forbidden words, etc.

Yep - I just had this experience earlier this week, where, for a new campaign, none of my DKI terms (all cities - the default was the state) would display because they were paired with what apparently is a 'trigger' word; I was told that my ads were against policy because of this word. I asked for an exception, and was refused. Then I asked for clarification of this policy (namely specifics) and I was told they'd actually looked at my site and decided to approve everything, and my DKI ads started running properly.

We have to remember that Google is trying to automate things as much as possible (they have to - the scale on which they operate would be unmanageable otherwise) and there are limits to the decision making that automation can reasonably provide. So you don't necessarily take the first or even second answer you get as the last word. Keep pushing until you get an actual human response. (But try to do it politely)

wanted to use a term that happened to be an archaic ethnic slur

** now you've got me curious - I would love to know what this word was...

La_Valette

10:13 pm on Apr 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Like I said, I wasn't using DKI when this showed up. Boh...

netmeg

9:09 am on Apr 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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So contact Google and ask.

La_Valette

7:39 pm on Apr 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Am I the only one having this problem then?

RhinoFish

12:15 pm on Apr 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Nope, you're not alone. I haven't had the time to contact G yet, so I have no resolution or guidance to toss into the ring.

Rehan

3:20 pm on Apr 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I contacted them a couple nights ago and after a live chat and a couple of e-mails back and forth, the issue has been escalated to their technical team. I was also granted exceptions for the trademarked terms that I had tried to use in keywords.

La_Valette

6:12 pm on Apr 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's definitely still happening...

AdWordsAdvisor

10:50 pm on Apr 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I contacted them a couple nights ago and after a live chat and a couple of e-mails back and forth, the issue has been escalated to their technical team. I was also granted exceptions for the trademarked terms that I had tried to use in keywords.

It's definitely still happening...

Somehow, I missed this thread until now - my apology to those who posted. I've just now looked into this, and word has it that the issue has been resolved. If this is not consistent with what you're experiencing, please let me know.

AWA

Rehan

12:06 am on Apr 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, AWA. :)

By the way, did the resolution affect anything related to trademarks in ad text also? I noticed that at the same time as I was experiencing the problem with the trademarked terms in keywords, I was not able to use a certain brand name in the ad text. I could do it before the trademark term bug popped up, and I can do it again after it has been fixed. Just wondering if it's related or coincidence.

AdWordsAdvisor

3:30 am on Apr 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, AWA. :)

A pleasure. Just wish I'd been a little quicker on the scene. ;)

By the way, did the resolution affect anything related to trademarks in ad text also? I noticed that at the same time as I was experiencing the problem with the trademarked terms in keywords, I was not able to use a certain brand name in the ad text. I could do it before the trademark term bug popped up, and I can do it again after it has been fixed. Just wondering if it's related or coincidence.

Hmmm. As I looked into it, Rehan, I didn't hear anything like that at all. I'll certainly pass your comment along to the tech folks, however.

AWA