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I always said this recent move was to frustrate people to make them more accepting of CPA...and Google checkout.
After Google hosed all my legit (non Adsense, nonaffiliate,non-optin) Adwords campaigns...why the hell would I give them more access to my business?
I really wish people could post their urls to their sites and landing pages for all these "legit, quality" sites. I've actually seen a few of them, from a dropped link here, and some other info on other sites, and man, it's scary what people think is legit.
Anyway, the answer is that some people will give more access if it makes them money. And if it happens to be the only way some people can make money, they'll be desperate to do it.
I doubt we'd use a CPA google model, because I suspect we'd have to accept payment thru google itself, and end up making really extensive changes to our sites and the way we use/access our current payment processors.
We're watching, but not eager to jump until it has a track record.
I really wish people could post their urls to their sites and landing pages for all these "legit, quality" sites. I've actually seen a few of them, from a dropped link here, and some other info on other sites, and man, it's scary what people think is legit.
More innuendo against people who don't agree with you. Many people here have legitimate gripes about Google's business practices.
More innuendo against people who don't agree with you. Many people here have legitimate gripes about Google's business practices.
I don't know I know several people who screamed at the top of their lungs to me who told me they had quality sites only to find out they had a form demanding an e-mail address as their landing page.
I have started lumping in all this claims of quality landing pages and being screwed right up with the people who claim their were wrongfully banned from Adsense and did nothing wrong.
I don't know I know several people who screamed at the top of their lungs to me who told me they had quality sites only to find out they had a form demanding an e-mail address as their landing page.I have started lumping in all this claims of quality landing pages and being screwed right up with the people who claim their were wrongfully banned from Adsense and did nothing wrong.
Definitely. But I'm sure we all understand that all these people are "complaining" anonymously using screen names, even.
One site that got kind of url dropped here really tickled me. Usual rant and rave complaining. Claims of great content/usefulness, etc. So I went to the site. What I found was basically a site that used a database that included names and addresses of golf courses in various places.
That's the content. 3-5 ads of various sorts on each page. No other information (oh wait, it used google maps!). No links to sites. No prices. No reviews or comments.
Now, of course, there are plenty of sites you CAN go to (which btw are in the organic search listing) that provide really good, fresh information on the topic. How this one was of use is beyond me.
BUT, I don't doubt the site owner believes his site is of great use and relevance, and great quality. But google didn't, and I certainly don't and I really doubt anyone could see how this offered anything original or different at all.
At least the guy tried to do something more than the 3 ads, and a bunch of bogus stuff.
Bottom line: Lots of webmasters out there have very low low standards for themselves, and I'm betting a lot of those folks simply don't have the ability to offer something more. I bet there are some good sites that google hit, but sheesh, some of this stuff is just gawdawful, and pointless.
Many people here have legitimate gripes about Google's business practices.
No doubt. I wish someone could set something up so that the complainers could voluntarily uncloak from their anonymity, and have people actually SEE their sites, and the quality they have.
In my view, if I wanted to make a really strong case against google on this issue, I'd want people to see my site, my landing pages and even my ad text, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that google has screwed up royally.
I know it can't be done here. But I'd just LOVE to see all these nifty keen, hugely valuable sites, if only to reassure myself that the gripes are indeed justified.
-Tom
That's the most I can say I guess. Spent 100k on Adwords, now $10 bids. Rep told me to bid more, no manual review.
I will NOT do CPA in any way.
I know it can't be done here. But I'd just LOVE to see all these nifty keen, hugely valuable sites, if only to reassure myself that the gripes are indeed justified.
It can easily be done. Just post your url in your profile.
It can easily be done. Just post your url in your profile
when i look at people's profiles I don't see any url's. Anyone know why?
And, of course, some may be old members pretending to be new or junior members. :-)
