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AOL Search - Important or Not?

How important is it to get Google Ads listed at AOL?

         

boggled

12:10 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I'd be interested to know if anyone has determined whether clickthrough rates from AOL's sponsored listings are greater than Googles.

The reason I say this is that AOL lists the sponsored links at the top of search returns, like overture.

It would appear that you have to have a top 4 adwords listing at google to appear in the AOL listing - is this correct?

Thanks,

Jon

ogletree

12:15 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Even if AOL got 10 times better ctr it would not be that great. AOL will send you very little traffic in the grand scheme of things.

nyet

2:04 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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CTR does not mean good sales.

Don't chase CTR - you don't work for Google. Chase sales - The bottom line!

We get lots of clicks from AOL and few conversions.

it all depends on what you are selling and their core demographic.

eWhisper

5:59 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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[webmasterworld.com...] post 7, has a link to a study which states CTR rates for AOL and Google.

Shak

6:03 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AOL in B2C markets converts better than most things, very similar traffic to ASKjeeves.

after all AOL recommends them to the sites :)

Shak

(You have email)

RedWolf

8:48 pm on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AOL does very well for us, but then we have a B2C site. I would think a B2B site wouldn't do very well.

ThomasAJ

3:51 am on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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AOL B2C did well for me but I'm not seen there anymore. Why? Because Google does not count AOL clicks towards their CTR so I am kicked off by Google for CTRs of 3.5% plus for my important KWs.
Sob.
So I spend my money at Overture.

Hard to believe but true.

Adwordsadvisor please tell us when this farce might end.

nyet

12:15 pm on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"farce"?

{eyes rolling}

Just because it did not work for you does not mean it is a farce.

Businesses (yours included) are free to construe their offering in any way they see fit (thank goodness).

Customers are free NOT to be customers.

chewy

8:12 pm on Jun 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i have the same problem / opportunity of ThomasAJ.

we had a CTR of over 4% and were disabled as most of the traffic is our preferred demographic - kids - coming in through AOL and ASK.

It doesn't seem they use Google as much as A/A and other partners.

And we know they convert so this is a critical success factor to keep this going.

What I want is to just be able to buy AOL impressions through AdWords - but I know this will never happen.

boggled

4:57 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is really interesting and I think may partly explain some big success I had for a very limited period.

I was bidding on a keyword (paying 5 cents) and getting about 0.5% CTR (~50 clicks/dy) and then all of a sudden for some unexplained reason I got a CTR of 5% (2000 clicks/dy!). I thought I'd been scammed somehow but checked my Clickbank account and I'd made $1000 in 6 hours! But then as quick as it had come it went, and I was back to my normal CTR.

The interesting thing was 95% of my sales were to AOL email addresses. And even with 5% CTR my keyword was classed as 'At risk'! This thing with AOL not counting towards Google %'s may explain it. I think I got lucky and made it onto the AOL top 4 listing and that's where my traffic came from - I'm struggling to get back onto it - one reason seems to be sites are getting listed that don't always appear on Googles listing - as if they have low daily budgets, which affects their appearance on Google to only every 100 impressions but appear everytime on AOL.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

chewy

5:27 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see these peaks as well and what I refer to as the AOL effect can explain some of it.

Try putting the petal to the metal (at least 3X of what the interace suggests) for a while with a brand new adwords account and see what happens.

Track it as closely as you can.

My experience is this will get you what you want.

Let us know.

ajwebmaster

5:33 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The interesting thing to me is the vast difference in cost when moving onto the AOL "radar".

If you ads are not ranked high enough to appear on AOL you settle in on a certain level of impressions/clicks/cost.

Raising your average bid, which could move your ad up only one position, and appearing on AOL can easily double or triple your impressions and skyrocket your costs (higher bid price plus more clicks).

Just an observation from my experience.

skibum

8:02 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In anything sold directly to consumers we've found AOL & MSN virtually always have the highest conversion rates so for us AOL is the primary reason to opt-in to search syndication.

boggled

8:56 pm on Jun 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That's another thing I noticed - previous conversion rate was around 1 in 250 (I am using content advertising as well), but over that short 6 hour period the 2000 clicks led to 1 in 45 conversion rate! An astonishing differnce! An made the whole affiliate thing in this instance much more viable.

I'm not sure what you mean Chewy about the 3x rate, I presume you mean to 3x the recommended budget?

And why should there be the need to set up a new adwords account?

Your comments are appreciated. Thanks.