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Brett_Tabke

12:50 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Explain this to those of us in the USA (it doesn't make sense):

[media.guardian.co.uk...]

Just 48 hours before Lord Hutton delivers his verdict on the controversy surrounding the death of Dr David Kelly, the BBC has begun an advertising experiment that involves buying up all internet search terms relating to the inquiry.

Despite being one of the main players in the drama, anyone searching for "Hutton inquiry" or "Hutton report" on the UK's most popular search engine Google is automatically directed to a paid-for link to BBC Online's own news coverage of the inquiry.

Dayo_UK

12:56 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)



Dont make sense to me either...

Cant see the adwords either...

ukgimp

1:04 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They are not doing a very good job. I am in the UK and I see nothing.

This wont

glengara

1:06 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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*... is automatically directed to a paid-for link to BBC Online's own news coverage of the inquiry.*

I suspect it's something on his machine, BBC is the first result for Hutton report all right, but nothing unusual there.
Can't see any AdWords either.

sem4u

1:14 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I spotted a BBC AdWord for something the other day. I just can't remember what it was for :(

I thought it was a bit strange the BBC using AdWords.

davidpbrown

1:14 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't make any sense.

All I see is that BBC tops for "Hutton report" trumping 6x Guardian pages, almost pushing them off my 800x600. "Hutton inquiry" is a Hutton's main site + Guardian then BBC.

I don't see any Adwords.. yet. Maybe there planned for the next few days IF beeb has paid for Adwords.

Sour grapes leading to confusion maybe.

anallawalla

1:23 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Or the Beeb's budget was depleted by the curious?

lasko

1:32 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As an expat of britain I have to say I am very surprised that the BBC would do such a move and that the british public allow it.

I mean we have to pay every year a TV licence even if you don't watch the BBC. Now the BBC expects to spend money like this instead of good reporting to attract visitors.

Hutton Inquiry will be all this week I expect we will see something tomorrow on google.co.uk.

But surely if they just feed more news regulary they will increase their ranking? I don't see what extra traffic they will get.

pixel_juice

1:34 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I saw an adword on Google for the BBC a few days ago. As above, i'm afraid I don't remember what the search term was. Again as above, I thought it was a rather questionable use of the BBC's budget.

The article above seems to be written by someone who understands neither search engines or the pay per click system.

From what I gather, it basically just means that the BBC is going to use Adwords to get extra traffic to their site, including terms based around the high-profile Hutton enquiry.

>>buying up all internet search terms relating to the inquiry.

>>automatically directed to a paid-for link to BBC Online's own news coverage of the inquiry

is simply nonsense...

[edited by: pixel_juice at 1:39 pm (utc) on Jan. 26, 2004]

Visit Thailand

1:38 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Being an avid BBC fan I would go straight to the BBC and look for it there but some people may just do a search on G. If the BBC can change these viewers into BBC regulars I think advertising is a good idea.

They advertise in other media, why not for individual articles or topics.

Competion between them and CNN is so fierce if it gives the BBC an advantage good for them!

pixel_juice

1:41 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Competion between them and CNN is so fierce if it gives the BBC an advantage good for them!

To me, it isn't so much a question of whether this will get the beeb more exposure (and from where I'm sitting they seem to have most uk news terms already covered) but whether the choice of paying for traffic using public funding is a good one.

CNN also stands to recover some of their expenditure through on-site advertising etc. which is not applicable in the BBC's case.

And finally, as a license payer it seems rather curious that I will be paying for my own clickthrough, to a site I already fund...

Visit Thailand

1:48 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Your TV license does not cover every part of the BBC are you sure it does the website?

BBC World carries and sells advertising aggresively.

pixel_juice

1:53 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ah well I've been unimpressed with some of the recent directions the beeb has been heading, so I'm probably just using this as a chance to complain.

I'll be whining about tax next ;)

That said, as far as I am aware the license fee does cover the site, and also the Adword that I saw clicked through to an ordinary news article, if I remember correctly.

lasko

1:54 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Competion between them and CNN is so fierce if it gives the BBC an advantage good for them!

The BBC has it far too easy, comparing the business of the BBC to CNN is very difficult.

BBC is funded by the British People where CNN is funded by business investments and advertising.

All BBC public services are available to everyone, free of adverts and independent of commercial or political interests. Other services are not financed by the licence fee, including BBC World Service. Profits from separate commercial BBC activities keep the licence fee down.

[bbc.co.uk...]

Why are they paying Adwords when they can't generate money from advertising on their own site?

Or does the BBC web site fall into the area where they can place advertisements?

Profits from separate commercial BBC activities keep the licence fee down

I have to laugh at the comment

"or political interests"

BBC v British Government.

:)

pixel_juice

1:59 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not staggeringly relevant, but this guy (who works for the beeb?) certainly seems to have been contemplating the use of adwords for the bbc:
[blackbeltjones.com...]

Certainly, advertising merchandise would make far more sense to me than links to news articles.

Syzygy

5:14 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My interpretation is that the journalist at the Guardian has 'sexed-up' this adwords/BBC report.

The writer intimates that just searching on Google for the terms 'Hutton inquiry/Hutton report' will have you automatically redirected to the relevant pages on the Beeb. This, of course, is not so.

At the time of writing, 5pm in London, no adwords can be seen. Perhaps they do not exist - and never did.

The claims that the BBC could prepare to launch adwords within 15 minutes is surely a lie. The BBC has no adwords and never has had. Adword inspectors have been given free reign to examine Beeb buildings in central London, and at Wood Lane, and Hans Clix - chief adwords inspector - confirms, that, as far as they are concerned, the BBC is not a threat to Google users in the free world.

And anyway, if they did have any adwords the Americans would have supplied them in the first place...

Interestingly enough, about a year ago on BBC Radio 4's 'Today' programme (which is at the centre of the entire Hutton scandal), Tony Benn claimed that the BBC was itself a 'WMD'.

In this instance he declared that the BBC was "...a weapon of mass deception."

Syzygy

kidekat

5:22 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All I see is someone advertising a shed ...

pixel_juice

5:28 pm on Jan 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Perhaps they do not exist - and never did.

As I mentioned above, I saw, and clicked on, an adword for the bbc a few days ago.

Brett_Tabke

3:39 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Covered on SlashDot Too - they are as clueless too:

[slashdot.org...]

Shak

3:55 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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NOT sure what took place, but I have been monitoring all related phrases and have NOT seen any ads by the BBC on Google or partner sites.

maybe they need a hand setting up an adwords account.

just a load of smoke, but no fire.

Shak

I see another site has been smart enough, and is bidding on the Hutton inquiry and related keywords, still NO bbc though :)

keithh

4:47 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Syzygy - brilliant post. But I suspect only those in the UK would get it.

lasko

7:53 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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still NO bbc though

Perhaps they are got inside information of the out come and didn't want to pay to advertise their own humiliation.

So Mr Blair is cleared so is MI5 and the BBC chairman resigns!

colinirwin

8:02 pm on Jan 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see another site has been smart enough, and is bidding on the Hutton inquiry

And getting surprisingly high click throughs! The BBC should have placed their ads.

Col