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Anyone still suffering from a low click-thru rate still?

         

irock

6:35 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My click-thru rate dropped by 25%. I haven't seen a lot of PSAs, but I saw tons of untargeted ads. I wonder if anyone is suffering from the same problem? (low click-thru w/o tons of PSAs)

Blue_Fin

6:44 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Did you read my response to your similar post at [webmasterworld.com...] ?

The only thing that has changed for me is that I emailed Google once again today, providing lots more examples.

irock

6:52 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I saw your post.

However, Google suggested that I should filter out the destination URL. Good advice... BUT the problem is that if I filtered out this ads (or destination URL), that particular ads might be targeted on my other pages. If I eliminated this ads, the ads relevancy on my other pages will drop.

See what I mean?

In fact, there are just SO many irrelevant ads... I saw at least 20... it's not wise to filter out them all for the reason above.

Blue_Fin

7:02 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I know exactly what you mean because that's what is happening to me. The ads are targeted to the theme of my site, but totally mistargeted to the page where they are showing up.

In fact, I did filter about 10 URLs late last night, and the result is that lower-paying ads appeared, just as mistargeted as the ones I filtered, so the bottom line result is worse now than it was before I filtered them.

Google has the ad inventory because ads that should be appearing on page A are appearing on page B, but not on page A. Visitors to page B are not interested in the ads they are seeing, so they aren't being clicked, but if those same ads were appearing on page A, they'd receive clicks from those page visitors who may be interested in the product/service being advertised on page B, which they won't see.

danny

7:47 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had a patch in late September of site-targetted rather than page-targetted ads, with much lower CTR than usual. It lasted a week.

junaidkhan

11:21 am on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mine has decreased almost 50% what it was in sept.

europeforvisitors

1:41 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)



My CTR is down, too, but that's to be expected at a time of year when European leisure travel takes a nosedive. (My traffic is up, but that's probably just because of schoolkids researching term papers!)

brotherhood of LAN

3:13 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Down here too, used to over 1 percent now getting used to below 1 percent.....I don't get too adventerous surfing the net but perhaps folks are getting 'banner blind' to these Google Ads now they've been on thousands of sites for a few months now.

Was thinking about rotating the colour of the ads as G does on their searches, must be why they do it apart from jazzing up the page a bit? ;)

div01

3:19 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mine's about half aswell...but in my case that probably has a lot to do with recently losing targetted traffic.

loanuniverse

3:20 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just ran my last 5 weeks and while I did not notice a considerable drop in CTR, I have had a noticeable drop in EPC.

Frankly CTR changes within a 10% band, which is not much. But EPC varies from 88% to 104% of the base which is a much wider range.

I believe that grouping a few days is the best way to look at it, you will go nuts with the daily swings. In addition, when the clicks are only a few cents you need to group them at let the spreadsheet account for all the decimals.

whizkiddo

11:17 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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EPC changes within tolerable limits. CTR not..30% drop :(

kwasher

9:35 pm on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wow. I was just coming here to post about this.

I havent had an adsense ad click noted to my account FOR TEN DAYS! Impressions are still there, but the clicks seem to have stopped.

zoltan

9:59 pm on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kwasher, how many impressions do you have a day?
You might send an email to google and ask if there is anything wrong.

richmondsteve

10:28 pm on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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kwasher, is it possible your site is only displaying PSAs or alternate ads you've implemented?

austtr

1:18 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Blue_Fin said:

".... ads are targeted to the theme of my site, but totally mistargeted to the page where they are showing up."

I am seeing the opposite where ads seem to be triggered by isolated words on the page and not the page topic/theme. I have pages relating to Australia travel and vacations and the page content leaves no room for doubt about that.

However, the word "adventure" on the page seems to be what is attracting ads relating to adventure tours/travel/vacations/resorts/outfitters in Asia, Africa, India, Egypt, Latin America and other exotic locations. Same story with the word "biking" which attracts ads for biking tours in far off exotic locations.

The Australian context throughout the pages seems to have no influence on the ads delivered. As things stand at present, the ads serve no purpose for the advertiser, publisher or viewer.

I had read lots of earlier posts praising the accuracy of the ad matching and I have been somewhat disappointed by my own results.

Blue_Fin

3:12 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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austtr, please add your comments to the broad matching discussion on the AdWords forum.

[webmasterworld.com...]

whizkiddo

3:55 am on Nov 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was hoping someone post the url; i checked out the thread since it has been featured on the main page. But for everyone else I seriously recommend following the link posted by Blue_Fin. Also read the post about BLue_fin's correspondence with G.

spud01

10:49 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Started using Adsense on Sunday (9th Nov) on two of my site.
Ads are runing on the pages receiving the most traffic, and i've done one or two checks to see if ads showns are appropiate. It all seem fine, but still my CTR hovers round the .5-.6% mark.

Will this get my adsense campaing unplugged?

Using 460x68 on one site and skyscrapper on the other.

lgn1

12:58 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My stats fall within an acceptable range, however on last thursday and again yesterday I have a CTR that is low and is an statistical outlier.

It really helps to do a standard deviation and variance test on your data. This way you can detect results that are noise, and results that are significant.

It appears that I have quite a pool of advertisers and have no problems with PSA's, however every once in a while I get an advertiser that promotes a product that either:

a) have a product that nobody would be interested in
b) have bad ad copy (sparks no interest to click)

I am going to start pruning these advertisers, as a high Cost per click is irrelevent, if nobody is going to click on the ad.

loanuniverse

1:52 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Will this get my adsense campaing unplugged?

Your CTR rate will not cause your account to be dropped. Discussing it in a public forum on the other hand ;)

lgn1

12:54 pm on Nov 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had our highest CTR yesterday to make up for the day before yesterdays lowest CTR rate. I sometimes wonder if Google messes up the Click-thru's for the previous day and just adds them to the following day, rather than corrrecting the day that they fall on.

richmondsteve

2:51 pm on Nov 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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lgn1, I seriously doubt Google does anything like that. Visitor volume, visitor behavior and AdSense variability all lead to variability in impressions, percentage of ads that are paying ads, clickthrough rates and earnings per click. Variability is normal.

spud01

5:20 pm on Nov 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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loanuniverse,

Thx for the heads-up, good to know that if ur ctp is bad for a period of time, ur campaign will still be allowed to run.