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I'm pretty sure that I have seen a couple of $20 clicks on a very rarely visited/clicked page.
Best topics/ads?
The ones you intend to put the most content around, typically.
Sure, those forgotten pages get some traffic every other day, but this program thrives on traffic to make it work.
You can start a meso-hybrid-acne-thelioma site, but if you aren't going to insert fresh content daily your advertisers aren't going to pay out for what little traffic you provide for them.
competition? what are you talking about?
I'm assuming they are referring to the fact that if we all share our topics that seem to pay well, then we have just introduced a huge population of webmasters to our "coveted" topics (that may not have been as well known).
This might have a negative effect on our earnings.
Of course this forum is here to share knowledge...I don't think we're expected to give away the farm in the process though :)
edit: whoops, did I say farm, I meant "widget" ;) stay away from my farm topics
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Lightning2004... can you keep a secret?
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For instance, my summer site that had lots of traffic paid pennies, but now that the summer is over, the prices seem higher. But maybe this is because of some new advertisers, or maybe they picked new keywords, or maybe G is making them pay more. I do not know.
I think if we all knew which topics paid highest, we would all build sites for those topics, and then the topics would pay the lowest.
But it seems that specific topics, not general topics, pay the most.
I'd like to think that there aren't a lot of folks at WW who would do this, but invariably you'd get a truckload of people advertising on supposed "successful" topics, many things a bit more difficult for everybody.
You'll get a better response if you ask about placement, total earnings or any other TOS compliant issue.
The reason (possibly - I am merely proffering a hypothesis based on nothing other than my own assumptions) that these clicks might have netted a large amount is precisely because it is a naturally very rarely visited subject. I'm sure there was a point there somewhere...
1. I've learned a lot on this forum. In fact, stuff I read on this forum has helped me more then double my earnings. And I've never once asked about keywords or what the best-paying ads are.
2. Even if people DID tell you their best keywords, it's highly unlikely you could do as well with them
So, what pay best on my site are ads focusing on self-publishing. They seem to earn a dollar or more, which on my site is a lot. I'm willing to tell you about them because self-publishing is actually not the focus of my site, and I doubt that you could replicate the conditions that bring me these high-value clicks. I'm not sure I could, even, because I don't think that these ads are targeted to "self-publishing" as a keyword! Possibly "writing," or "publishing," or "writing and publishing." AdSense works in mysterious ways.
You're asking the wrong question, in other words. If you want help on this forum, there are tons of things you could be asking about where you'd get lots of responses (browsing the old discussions first can be worthwhile too--if you'd done that, you'd have seen that asking about keywords or the best ads didn't get people the information they wanted.)
Good luck!
Good point. I think the best questions to ask, when someone is starting from scratch with online publishing, are:
- What do I know a lot about?
- What am I enthusiastic enough about to spend hours writing about it?
- What do I have to say that other people would find interesting?
- What knowledge do I have that, on a web page, will generate unsolicited inbound links?
Then, write some original content about those topics, and create pages that look good, present Adsense ads well and are pleasing to advertisers. The more original content you write, the more traffic you generate, and the more feedback you get as to which keywords earn you money (related to your own knowledge/expertise).
IMHO, if you take any other approach then my guess is that, in the long term, Adsense/Google will find a way of reducing your cost per click or even cutting you out of the process altogether. Ultimately it will be original content and added value that will yield growing returns. Others may disagree, though.
Oh, one other point. Read the Adsense terms in great detail, stick to them, and don't try to cheat the system, otherwise eventually you'll come a cropper.
The correct question is:
"What am I keen on,
AND that many other surfers are also,
AND that will bring in good revenue?".
Your request is: "Tell me which terms you're making good money on so I can piggy-bank on your research for no outlay..."
To which the proper reply is: "Raaaasssspppp!".
What do I know a lot about?
- What am I enthusiastic enough about to spend hours writing about it?
I respectfully dissagree. Respectfully, that is, because 21_blue's advice is generally true.
I make much more off sites that are written for topics I identify as good markets, even though I find the subject itself boring and outside my personal interests.
I am wondering if perhaps I don't write better when the topic takes study and preparation, as opposed to off-the-cuff writing about my favorite interests.
Just a thought, and I'll keep pursuing the "right" topics, without regard for my personal interests.
Just out of interest, is that how you started out? And are the topics completely unrelated to your knowledge/expertise?
I think when someone is starting out they should stick to the knitting, and branch out after a good foundation has been established.
My site topic is book information. The three main types of ads I see are those advertising a small-time author and/or his/her new book, self-publishing/author's resources, and book clubs.
I'd estimate that about half the ads are for small-time authors. Clicks on these are in most cases almost worthless. I think this us due to a couple of conditions:
1) The author is trying to sell a book, which they will only get a tiny amount of profit on anyway, reducing how much they are willing to put forward.
2) These authors have no idea how to write a good ad.
3) There is little competition for the keywords.
The other two pay much better, but never enough to make a phone call. I'm not positive that either pays any more that the other.
perhaps you have very honed skills in identifying and writing about disparate subjects.
I agree with what you are saying - to draw a parallel - a good journalist may not be a soldier but can make a good war correspondent, or conversely a good driving enthusiast may not make the best motoring correspondent.
Adsense has no barriers to entry, it is a level playing field which allows the enthusiastic amateur(I include myself in this category) to compete (that's not really the word I wanted to use) with the hardened professional.
i know theres tons but from your experience and click wise..which ads have made you the most?
The ads with the highest eCPMs. :-)
I don't look at EPC. A high EPC is nice but I focus on getting as much clicks as possible.
There is a balance between epc and ctr that gets optimum earnings. DumbPricing (or RandomPricing as someone else said) seems to dislike high ctr and knocks back epc hence your earnings. Seems to me you need to get a stable ctr then grow the clicks without altering the ctr if possible.
What seems to work best for me is a moderate, stable ctr and booting all MFA sites.
If you say you know how to eaily get 5000 hits a day to your site, what's the source of that traffic?
Be careful what you do man...
I know how to get a million hits today.
It will cost me only 100 bucks,
oh, and my Adsense membership of course...
Lightning,
I think it might be time for you to have a bit more careful look at the Google Terms Of Service that you committed yourself to when joining Adsense. There is much more that can get you banned.
Examples:
having Adsense code on pages
- with links to gambling stuff
- links to sexual content
- with mp3's that aren't yours
- with no content
- etcetera
>well how would we know if a traffic source is poor >or up to googles standards? any signs to look for?
Well, for starters the kind of traffic that
"can easily get 5000 hits a day".
There are only few sources of traffic that Google considers OK.
1) The natural traffic brought to you by search engines.
2) Traffic coming in through links from ´good´ other websites and from people who have bookmarked you.
3) The traffic you buy from Yahoo Search Marketing and Adwords
Am I missing anything folks?
The rest is usually shady, grey or the darkest of black...
