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Is it safe to view your own site?

         

newbies

8:08 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I wonder it is safe to view you own site without clicking on ads. since I have to work on my site, so view and reloading pages may be frequent. Would this be a concern?

Thanks

Blue_Fin

8:13 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are you serious?

newbies

8:19 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I meant if google will treat it as fraud.

dazz

8:59 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Absolutely no way!

Of course you can look at your own site!

Just dont click on your adsense ads.

daugava

5:27 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually, I've been wondering about this too.
If you have a big site, Google may think that you open all the pages on purpose, to nudge the Mediabot to visit them and index.

Then again, you've got to open each of your pages at least once to test that they all work...

Here's one tweak I use to avoid overstressing Mediabot - when I open my site via IP address instead of domain name, my page sees this and doesn't try to include Adsense code.

Andy

Zygoot

6:13 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sheesh why are you scared to view your OWN website? :/
I have to work on my site everyday, and I think I roughly make about 150 impressions a day.

alika

6:20 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think this is paranoia at its worst. Google is paying you per click. Not the impressions.

The impressions would be a major factor if it is a CPM campaign, and your impressions are heavily skewed on a few IP address (presumably yours). Burst, for example offers its members the capability to view the Analog Report, which shows the "first 25 hosts by the number of requests, sorted by the number of requests" so you can see which IP address views their ads the most. To my knowledge, though, they have not penalized any member site when the biggest impressions came from the member's own computers.

I'm sure Google tracks down where the impressions are coming from, but I highly doubt it that they will crack down on their publishers just because "you viewed your site too much."

"No viewing your site" -- so what next, no updating the site because that will be too much work for the Google mediabot to come back every so often to your site to check out new pages? And Google may penalize sites that attract the mediabot the most?

Let us all get a grip here :o)

sun818

6:21 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It does reduce your impressions/click ratio. Wouldn't that affect your earnings per click, assuming ratio is a factor in earnings?

aravindgp

6:28 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why are you so scared?
It's your own site after all, you can visit n number of times.Initially as soon I saw post I thought it was a joke.

However if you are visiting too many times and your site is small and has few visitors it might effect overall Clickthrough rate in Adsense as your impressions might increase and your CTR might drop by 1 to 3 %.Just an observation,
This should not in any way effect your Earnings.

loanuniverse

6:40 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually, I've been wondering about this too.
If you have a big site, Google may think that you open all the pages on purpose, to nudge the Mediabot to visit them and index.

That is just good sense. You want to get them spidered as soon as possible. Nevertheless, I can see how someone with a very small number of pageviews might use this as a way to hide fraudulent clicks that would reveal themselves due to CTR.

My advice: You can look all you want just don't touch :D

europeforvisitors

6:50 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)



It does reduce your impressions/click ratio. Wouldn't that affect your earnings per click, assuming ratio is a factor in earnings?

Why would you care about that? Earnings per click is a meaningless number (except for publishers who choose to agonize over it). The amount on your monthly check is what counts.

alika

6:56 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree 100% for EFV. Your EPC is just an indicator of what affects your bottomline, but at the end of the day ... it is the size of your check that counts.

Jenstar

11:41 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Impressions is an issue because Google was citing fraudulent impressions and/or clicks when everyone first reported receiving those emails from Google. I am not sure if it still says the same.

What happens is someone is clicking fraudulently (through whatever means) and could raise their CTR to 30, 40, 50%. So that person will also get fraudulent impressions to lower that CTR to the daily average CTR rate, so that the higher number of clicks than normal could be explained by a higher amount of traffic - even though there is a significantly higher number of clicks and actual $ earnings. This is where number of impressions could become an issue.

But, a webmaster/employess going about their daily business is not going to give enough impressions that it would really affect impressions to the extreme I am describing in the scenario above.

aravindgp

5:54 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Jenstar,

I think you are making a good point, if you somehow got fradulent clicks and your CTR is high, then you might try to get fradulent Impressions, this is quite possible.

I think google does have look into this as well ,since what I think might be happening is google might be recording impressions from IP.

If impressions and clicks are recorded per IP as I guess google might be doing, then Red Flag is signalled at the Algorithm level for fradulent impressions or Clicks.

I am assuming google is already implementing this :)

dmorison

7:29 pm on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've never had anything to do with AdSense, but if I did, i'd use a "secret" cookie to supress the AdSense block from my own page views.

(would be trickier if you don't have any kind of server side scripting capability of course)