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Anybody else have an all-time low this last 3 days?

Not a lament, just a community ping.

         

androidtech

9:18 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The last three days were far below our average for AdSense revenues and were actually the lowest payouts ever. No PSA activity was detected and CTR was actually better than usual.

Anybody else experience a similar dip?

thx

irock

9:30 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My best guess is that your advertisers maybe pulling out from some ads or that they maybe lowering their bids. There's always a chain reaction there.

Jenstar

9:35 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There always seems to be a significant drop over the last few days of the month. It usually goes up after the first of the month - although it may take until November 3rd of this month, since the first couple days of the month happen to fall on the weekend in November.

For several months now, this drop has been reported, mainly because advertisers tend to lower or suspend their CPC ammounts near the end of the month.

Within a few days, you should see a change. If not, look at other reasons for the drop.

acidic

9:45 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've just had my all time highs over the last 3 days so if earnings are going to go up from today then I'm really excited!

Marcia

9:54 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Third highest day yesterday (Friday the 31st) and not at all shabby the previous two.

onfire

10:34 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The last three days have been record highs (well its only the end of my 2nd month so things really have not settled but i am well impressed)

Traffic has increased since my rise in the SERPs this week, and that has helped my Sales increase and CTR too.

So i say bring the Christmas shopping on now, NOV & DEC should see more record highs for sales and Adsense publishers.

nutsandbolts

10:36 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dreadful yesterday despite a nice amount of clicks, excellent the day before with less clicks. Such is life. Such is Adsense :)

killroy

10:41 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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last three days, traffic up, CTR rock steady, earnings down by about 40-50%. Hope it's just the end of month blues. Worse then last month, ESPECIALLY considering the upped traffic. (thank god it was made up for more then with sales :)

SN

Jenstar

10:51 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think a lot of it also comes down to this thread:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Some people's absolutely worst day in AdSense history is often another persons best AdSense day in history.

alika

11:23 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We fell rockbottom in the second-third week of October, but made significant changes in the ad format we used, and our last week soared to its high September levels. I am bumping my head why I did not change the format (from banner to leaderboard) much much sooner, so at least I could have a positive month-on-month growth.

At least, the discrepancy between Sept and Oct's growth has been narrowed down from -30% in the second week of Oct to a more acceptable -15%.

Blue_Fin

11:30 am on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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alika, it has been reported hear repeatedly that the leaderboard outperforms the banner. It stands to reason that CTR and earnings would be higher when going from two ads to four ads.

alika

1:46 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yes bluefin. in fact, we use leaderboards in all our pages -- except our homepage. and september was really really good for us. since joining in end june, our monthly revenues were increasing by an average of 200% -- even by just using the banner format for our homepage. we were hoping the trend would continue in october.

unfortunately, it did not. so we had to bite the bullet and shift to the leaderboard to the homepage. that's when we recovered. but we were holding off using the leaderboard in our homepage for aesthetic and branding purposes.

div01

2:43 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Friday was pretty bad, though my impressions were down as well. OTOH, the last day of Sept was quite good.

Blue_Fin

2:55 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Friday was pretty bad, though my impressions were down as well. OTOH, the last day of Sept was quite good.

Ditto here. I think a more fair comparison would be to compare the last Friday in October to the last Friday in September rather than the last day in September, which was a Tuesday. In our case, at least, Tuesdays are always significantly better than Fridays.

loanuniverse

2:55 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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October was great! Thursday was on the top quartile {top 25%}, Friday was a let down with about half of Thursday's with about the same traffic, but really you can not make a trend out of a day or even three.

For fun I do the following {take into consideration I am a half-geek financial guy}:

- I go to the history page and copy the all time history for the account.

- I paste the history in excel.

- I then group the results in groups of seven days. {for example the first day through the seventh day that I ran adsesnse makes group #1}

- I can then graph trends in visits, CTR and earnings over the life of the account. That will let you know trends, not 3 days.

P.S: I also run summary stats, standard deviations and correlation tables {yes I am half nuts}, and of course the highest determinant of earnings is not visits {correlation coeficient of less than .60} it is # of clicks {correlation coeficient of about .82}. To do the later you need some kind of statistics package as doing it in excel is not easy.

CPCretirement

3:19 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My earnings were kind of low the last few days of the month also. What this tells me is that I need to kick it up on the Adwords side on the last few days of the month. Might be some bargains to be had.

androidtech

3:50 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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CPCRetirement,

That's great for two reasons!

1 - What an interesting way to become aware of AdWords bargains (decrease in AdSense payouts in a topic).

2 - Talk about making lemonade when you life hands you lemons, nice conversion of a bummer into opportunity.

Good job!

thx

davewray

5:47 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Loanuniverse...You think you're a geek? I have calculated to the tenth of a cent how much I make from each and every visitor to my site through Adsense ;) That way I know exactly how much I can spend on advertising to bring more visitors to my site and still make a profit. (Of course, I make money on other products/services, but Adsense is by far my biggest revenue generator). Come on everyone, brag about your geekness! :) In terms of this month compared to the previous two in terms of EPC and revenue...EPC has remained fairly constant and so has CTR. Revenue overall has gone up but only because my traffic has gone up.

Dave.

martinibuster

5:55 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday, the 31st, was a holiday. Lots of moms dressing up their little kids then out trick or treating. People had parties to go to and costumes to make.

Just a thought.

europeforvisitors

11:49 pm on Nov 1, 2003 (gmt 0)



Today, November 1, is quite strong for a Saturday--probably because it's the first day of a new month and my AdSense advertisers have new budgets to spend.

(That's pretty much what I expected--the same thing happens every month!)

div01

12:18 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just checked the stats for today and so far, the day looks brutal. I have to go all the way back to the middle of August for such low figures. Yikes.

irock

1:40 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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wow, i hit an all-time-low revenue... that's a bad start.

I wonder if this has to do with post-Halloween effect...

killroy

2:55 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, my CPC is back to normal. Was around 50% of long term trend for 4 days. Mind oyu, my stats are quite representative, long termaq verages and all, so I'm quite confident it's an end of month, beginning of month issue.

SN

linear

5:26 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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loanuniverse opined:
doing it in excel is not easy

Wow, correl() function works okay for me in Excel.

davewray exhorted:

Come on everyone, brag about your geekness!

I found the the linear correlation coefficient of:
impressions to earnings: 0.61
CTR to earnings: 0.73
clicks to earnings: 0.85

Which agrees nicely with what you report, loanuniverse.

I graph a seven-day and 30-day moving average on the same axes as my daily. I'm pleased to report the 30-day line is increasing monotonically.

My normalized standard deviation of earnings is 0.46 (approximate translation: about 68% of my days are within 46% of average, or alternatively 32% are more than 46% away from average--I have a quite wide spread in my results). My normalized standard deviation of impressions is 0.26, meaning my earnings vary more widely than my impressions. My normalized standard deviation of clicks is 0.50 (and I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that).

To a least pay some lip service to the topic, the last three days for me were 161%, 113%, and 67% of the seven-day moving average. They were 180%, 136%, and 81% of the 30-day moving average.

Six weeks of data were abused in the making of this post.