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VKworld

2:51 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi - I have a few websites created by page generation software. Each website (about 10) is a few thousand pages, each page with a little article and AdSense links mostly.

I've seen income gradually decreasing after the sites bring in (good) money for a few weeks, I've made about $2000 total since the beginning of June.

The content on all of these websites and pages is so-so but the sheer quantity of webpages I have out there make it next to impossible NOT to make money.

My question - if I get a bunch of websites to link to each of my auto created sites, will my income go down as I've described above or do I have to work on content?

2fast

3:36 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Did you get most of the traffic for your sites from Google to generate that income?
If so, I think Google must have noticed it. If you are getting most of the traffic from other sites, especially from Yahoo, you shouldn't be having a problem.
By the way, I think you better consider putting unique content for your sites.

You don't need 1000s of pages or 100s of domains to generate good money.(This is possible too, if you have unique content.)
1 page website with unique content is also enough to generate good money if you have 1000s of loyal users.

jmcnealy

5:20 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Soon, you may be banned by Google. I had a domain like the ones that you have set up. One day I noticed that I had no page rank. If you wish to keep your sites in Google, at the very lease, don't use the default template that comes with the program. Change it up from site to site. Also, you'll find that many sites will not link with you if you look like you are there only for the adsense ads. Though I guest you could try a link exchange.

Sobriquet

5:28 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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1 page website with unique content is also enough to generate good money if you have 1000s of loyal users

I would love to explore this point. I also think if one has one ( or say 10 to 15 ) nice pages with unique content, and 1000 unique traffic per day, he can mke good money.

Now - taking it further- do you think PPC can be used instad of loyal users?

jmcnealy

5:40 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, the trick is this: the unique content will take longer to rank in Google. Also remember that the reason that the 1000's of auto generated pages do so well (at first) is because they cover many keywords that a few unique pages won't. Now, if the unique pages had more links, that might do it. Just a thought.

david_uk

5:41 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi - I have a few websites created by page generation software. Each website (about 10) is a few thousand pages, each page with a little article and AdSense links mostly.
I've seen income gradually decreasing after the sites bring in (good) money for a few weeks, I've made about $2000 total since the beginning of June.

I'm guessing that you don't get traffic by being top of the search engine listings based on content, and are in any case probably still in the sandbox. Therefore I'm also guessing that you have to acquire traffic by paying for it? When you quote $2K, is that nett income, or have you got to deduct traffic acquisition costs to get a true picture? The difficulty in what you are doing is that it may very quickly come to the point where traffic acquisition costs as much the incoming revenue.

The content on all of these websites and pages is so-so but the sheer quantity of webpages I have out there make it next to impossible NOT to make money.

So the content is mainly adsense links with very little to actually interest the visitor?

From the adsense TOS:-

No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant.

Site may not include:

Excessive advertising

I think you'll find that you break the TOS on both of these counts, and risk getting banned from adsense. When they ban you, you cant just re-apply - you are banned for life.

My question - if I get a bunch of websites to link to each of my auto created sites, will my income go down as I've described above or do I have to work on content?

If you don't have content on your pages you'll get booted. (see adsense TOS)

If you don't have content on your pages you won't get good search engine placement.

If you don't have content on your pages visitors have no reason to visit.

Adsense is not a get rich quick scheme. OK, some people make good gains in the very short term, but Google are trying to get rid of these automated sites from adsense - they have even asked people to report them to the adsense abuse team.

If you really want to make serious money in the long term from adsense, then you *have* to have content that people want to see. Those people here that have been making good money over the long term (and will continue to) are all people that have content-rich sites.

[edited by: david_uk at 5:43 am (utc) on Aug. 2, 2005]

jmcnealy

5:42 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I guess the question is: how do you get unique traffic to go with the unique content?

jetteroheller

5:43 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I hope the Google programmers find some good algorithms to wipe out such software generated scrap.

jmcnealy

5:45 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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They have, and they will.

david_uk

6:07 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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One final point to illustrate why content is king:-

My adsense income comes from one site. My traffic acquisition costs are $0.00 - due to content I'm top of the search engine listings for any search related to my niche topic. I don't have adsense banners on most of my site - about 10 banners out of several hundred pages.

Bottom line is that I make more money than you do, and it costs me absolutely zero to get traffic. OK. it's not all profit as I have to tell the tax man about the income, but that applies to you too. My earnings are currently on the increase, mostly because I've recently been blocking scrapers, directories and made for adsense sites.

Guess what? I'll still be here in 6 months time making money - I've been in Adsense nearly 2 years now. You will probably have been booted by then.

I think you need to change your strategy if you want to make money out of adsense in the medium - long term.

On the site listed in your profile there is a link on how to make $1K per day out of internet marketing - maybe give that a go?

VKworld

6:18 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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To answer some questions some of the "real" forum participants addressed:

I spend nothing for traffic...just add a couple of h1 tags on each of the pages...the software does it for me. Most of the visitors I have come from Yahoo!

These are new domains (really new) that I set up specifically for the AdSense income and so I could write articles and post them somewhere (I like writing, keeps the boredom to a minimum) so why not do it for profit?

I have unique content I've written on all of the pages. There may not be 6000 articles for 6000 pages, but I write about 20 - 30 articles and the page generation software rotates them in and out automatically.

I also have an RSS feed on each page...I'm considering getting one of these RSS to HTML programs, not sure how it would work yet.

jetteroheller

6:35 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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To answer some questions some of the "real" forum participants addressed:

Counting me as a real forum participant,
From 3000 pages are
around 2100 articles from me.
around 900 pages are folder indexes or theme oriented directories where the 2100 articles are listed.

With the honest method, income increases.

etechsupport

6:43 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You should have good "Content" and appropriate "keyword(s)" as contents and the keywords that bring visitors to your site.

ann

6:48 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I frankly hope ASA is reading this thread!