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Invalid clicking possibility?

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6:22 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I just received an email from a recent contact who said he just clicked on every ad on my site, as a favor! He had been asking my advice on my business and my site and I mentioned advertising costs and revenue possibilities. I did not instruct him to click randomly or continuously - in fact I didn't ask him to click at all. I simply explained how AdSense worked, among other things, like AdWords.

I have not yet received the dreaded invalid clicks letter, but needless to say, I'm worried I may.

I don't get a lot of traffic or daily clicks, but I am wondering, if I do get the dreaded letter, would I be able to plead my case by showing Google his email correspondence? Also, is there a built-in limit of # of clicks from one IP address, or a timing system of some sort, that AdSense uses - to cut down on click fraud? (If not, there should be). Thanks for any advice.

lammert

6:38 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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First of all welcome to WebmasterWorld Inquire!

Well, you still have the possibility to turn this event in the right direction. Email AdSense support before they email you about that issue. Ask them to substract the clicks from your account. If you wait until you receive the invalid clicks email, you are probably too late.

I don't know if this contact lives in the same area as you, because in that case you will have a very hard time convincing AdSense that you weren't involved in the invalid clicking.

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6:59 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the advice. I will check out how to email AdSense Support. I'm still wondering if there are any built-in preventions to prevent abuse. For example, only five clicks have shown up thus far, and he claims that he clicked on every ad, which would be something like 30. Also, how do they know which ones to discount, out of the whole day or by the time they get around to looking at the log?

The contact lives on another continent, so in that sense, I may get off lucky.

lammert

7:10 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Their email address is adsense@google.com

They have software running that checks continuously all clicks on ads for fraudulous patterns. If you say that you only see 5 clicks in your stats where there should be 30, that software has already detected the strange click pattern and marked these clicks for further investigation. Then its a matter of time before you receive the dreaded email.

So you need to be in a hurry. Email them before they mail you!

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7:48 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is still not clear whether or not he clicked on all the ads on my site or all the ads on my home page (which equal 5), and that's how many happen to show up at the moment.

Also of note is that the impressions continue (so far) to accumulate beyond the clicks, so if my account is flagged, then you'd think the impressions would be suspended since clicks and impressions are part of the same program (admittedly I am theorizing there). But no use taking any chances. I just emailed AdSense, saying that I am fully aware that there may be invalid clicking on my account and to remove the 5 clicks.

Done - wish me luck!

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7:52 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Damn, my email just bounced back!:

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 10): 553 5.5.3 <adsense@google.com>... Invalid

Are you sure about the email address? I am now going to try the form in the suppport page.

lammert

10:13 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, it seems to be adsense-support@google.com. I copied the previous email address from another current thread on this board and it happend to be wrong.

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10:31 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK. I wonder if I should send an email there too?

As I said, when the first one bounced back, I used the web form under the "Other" category to send AdSense an email. No response as yet from Google - one way or other. In the meantime, other clicks continue as do impressions. So maybe I haven't been flagged afterall. And maybe they will overlook the 5 bogus clicks, on account of my honesty. Maybe...

esllou

11:01 pm on Aug 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yes, of course your stats will continue to rise. Your account hasn't been suspended yet, has it?

the other member was just saying "those" click have been flagged and will be looked at some point in the future.

my own opinion is that this type of "click fraud" is the easiest for G to see through. One site user with one IP number goes click-happy either out of boredom or malice.