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The good times will be over soon so well done to everyone who has made a tonne of money so far - you caught the gold rush. As for everyone else it is only a matter of time (see the end of the banner ad days for details) before making a decent amount is impossible.
Time to start thinking about the next big thing...
Most of the companies using adwords have overhead, employees, yada yada yada...we don't need that :)
- For Us - Easy
I haven't incurred debt for my web business to make the income. I see that as a perk! A web business without overhead that can be done either full time & spare time to make money.
Yes,it is easy, but still takes hard work.
I see where you're going with it but if I only made $15 per site I'd shoot myself.
I have a dual Xeon server for my main site which makes bundles of Ad$en$e...
My comment about the $50 and $5 sites this month was just a bit of sarcasm aimed at "every man and his dog" will be making money. These sites are freeloading on my primary server and I don't really expense hosting against those two sites, but against the grand total of all earnings.
If you analyze the hosting costs as percentage of total earnings per server the site earning $50 would contribute $1.65/month towards the dedicated server.
Yup, this is so easy everyone and his dog can do it ;)
Not that easy. My dog is pretty smart, but I'm having a heck of a time teaching her how to type.
run squirrel run!
My dog is pretty smart, but I'm having a heck of a time teaching her how to type.
Have you thought about setting up a voice recognition program like Dragon Speaking Naturally for the poor pooch?
Would I likely make more Adsense $ if I paid more than the current $8.50 per mo for hosting?
I hope you don't need to. I was hoping to make a killing with my next 2 million page site on my $8 shared hosting account where I already have two sites running. ;)
Of course, MMMV.
No domain names, no hosting etc.
Only recently have I started to move them to a "proper" host. I do not see how it helps make you MORE money! CONTENT is all that really matters.
Check out freeserve or wanadoo - free hosting and 15mb per account. I have 15... No ads, bandwidth probs, etc. Pay as you go...
Check out freeserve or wanadoo - free hosting and 15mb per account. I have 15... No ads, bandwidth probs, etc. Pay as you go...
Hmm . . . that would give me 7.5 bytes per page. That might work, except
CONTENT is all that really matters.
And I can't put a whole lot of content on 7.5 bytes per page. :(
Maybe 3 Gig will do it. And $8 per month isn't very much more than free if you are aiming for thousands a month.
YMMV
Would I likely make more Adsense $ if I paid more than the current $8.50 per mo for hosting?
We made $10,000/ month using our $30/monthy shared hosting plan....let's see....pretty darn good profit...lots of nuts for that squirrel :)
But why do you need so many pages?
Ever heard of scrapers? ;)
It must be easier just to have a hundred pages of real valuable content if you ask me!
>then why don't my 2 new sites make so much?
>One is hauling in about $50 so far this month and >the other hasn't broken $5 yet.
>Yup, this is so easy everyone and his dog can do >it ;)
I'm a little confused. I could swear you had a post, a little while back, where you said you were making $300 a day.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Indicating that your two 'new' sites are not making much in this thread while failing to mention to the one that makes $300 a day (or is that $300 a day for a combination of other sites?), would leave people (who hadn't seen the other post boasting big Adsense bucks) to think you were failing at Adsense. I hardly think $300 a day is failure. If you are making $300 on another site(s), then in fact it is pretty easy.
You sit in the bar drinking (according to your past posts), working on your computer at your leisure, and make $9000+ a month. It doesn't get any easier. I'm sure almost everybody reading this thread would gladly change places with you...except those making more than you.
Obviously you know how to make Adsense work for you, you just didn't apply the principle to all your sites.
It IS easy. Incredibly easy.
I guarantee you that people buying .info domains for $1.50 and auto-generating a 50,000 page site of nonsense can make sites quicker than advertisers can filter them
I'd welcome the introduction of a whitelist filter (eg. only show my ads on XYZ sites) rather than the blacklist the adwords has.
Both as a publisher and advertiser - I get enquiries regarding ads nearly every day - I'd love to be able to refer (with a referal fee) them to google and instruct them to advertise on the content network with my site in the whitelist :)
As a publisher - campaigns on one site only - makes a lot of sense - being able to track at that level makes a lot of sense. Hope ASA and AWA are reading...
But why do you need so many pages?
Because people in this hobby consume large amounts of data. I can't/won't give more specifics.
The same reason that weather site might have a page for every zip code, or an astronomy site might have a page for every star, or a car repair site might have specs on every car ever built. The site is none of these, but that gives you an idea.
I agree with you that a hundred quality pages is more valuable than thousands or millions. I don't want to promote large sites nor give any encouragement to scrapers. I wouldn't expect my site to earn even a small part of what your pages earn, but it will be useful to a certain set of users.
I'm just pointing out that one size doesn't fit all as far as hosting. I'm just the kind of person that needs dynamic pages with Java or php, xml/xsl, plus a database that can hold a few gig of data.
Most, I'm sure, could get by with a lot less space or features. But I would still reccommend owning a domain.
I have a about a hundred total. The freeserve thing happened by accident when I was doing it for fun, but its hard to move and keep traffic and links...
And as you've discovered, that is an advantage to having your own domain and real hosting. You've been fortunate that your free hosting hasn't gone out of business or turned to pay as so many have. Then you would be forced to move and try to keep traffic and links at a time that may not be convenient.
Back when the globe.com had a free hosting option, I built a large mall there. The Boston Globe woke up one day and decided that the site was too expensive to run, and they pulled the plug on everything but the main page. We had begun to just see a profit to cover our other overhead and that floored us. It had taken us many months to hand write all the code and upload the daily work at that time, on a 1gig/32ram system, with a 28k dial up, was murderously slow. We couldn't move things around fast enough to hold on to what we had, and lost it all.
Think about that.
When you get big, moving is a VERY big deal. It is much better to have some vision on where you want things to go, and then start with the right foundation.
I see businesses come to the web everyday, with no vision, and unrealistic expectations... expectations that far outweigh their ability, and their conviction to achieve their goals. Time after time I see them whine over hosting fees of $20 a month, and wonder where their brain is. To me, it seems the air has quit flowing in the windmills of their mind. It is prudent to keep overhead costs low during start up, but when you try to get something for nothing, in the end, you will end up with nothing, as my experience above demonstrates.
Free is wonderful, and we promote 'free' heavily on our network, if you want to make it big on the web however, you need to build your own foundation. Cough up the hosting and bandwidth fees, but build pages that convey the message, without excessive bandwidth usage.
It is always those who have free pages, that don't mind building those 250k to 1mg+ pages, that load painfully slow. If you are paying for the bandwidth, 50k or less should do the job for 99% of your pages.
Save the images for when the revenue will support more bandwidth.
I'm a little confused. I could swear you had a post, a little while back, where you said you were making $300 a day.
Jane jane jane...
Note I said "why don't my 2 new sites make so much?"
You sit in the bar drinking (according to your past posts), working on your computer at your leisure, and make $9000+ a month. It doesn't get any easier. I'm sure almost everybody reading this thread would gladly change places with you...except those making more than you.
Ah yes, but that's from a 7 yo authoritative site that has rock solid SERPs.
Some of my latest adventures haven't been quite as lucrative but I've got another site that's 6 yo site that I'm starting to convert to AdSense/Affiliates instead of ecommerce.
We'll see where that site takes me :)
