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Financial Potential!

Where AdSense and other Site Income Can Put You

         

Buzliteyear

4:25 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Howdy,

This post is for two different audiences.

Audience #1
First, for those who take this program seriously. Between AdSense, Affiliate programs, banner advertisers, etc., your potential income is really limitless. Below is a chart that I use as a motivator. I hope you like it.

Audience #2
For those who continue to argue that it is okay to click on your own ads and other silliness, you are playing with fire. This forum is filled with webmasters who treated AdSense as a toy and got banned. Below is what you could be losing if you continue to push the edge.

Finally, these statistics do not take into account bank interest which would make the figures rise dramatically.


Projected AdSense and Other Site Income

$50 Per Month Income
1 Year $600
5 Years $3,000
10 Years $6,000
15 Years $9,000
20 Years $12,000

$100 Per Month Income
1 Year $1,200
5 Years $6,000
10 Years $12,000
15 Years $18,000
20 Years $24,000

$200 Per Month Income
1 Year $2,400
5 Years $12,000
10 Years $24,000
20 Years $36,000

$500 Per Month Income
1 Year $6,000
5 Years $30,000
10 Years $60,000
15 Years $90,000
20 Years $120,000

$1,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $12,000
5 Years $60,000
10 Years $120,000
15 Years $180,000
20 Years $240,000

$2,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $24,000
5 Years $120,000
10 Years $240,000
15 Years $360,000
20 Years $480,000

$5,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $60,000
5 Years $300,000
10 Years $600,000
15 Years $900,000
20 Years $1,200,000

$10,000 Per Month Income (UPS Club)
1 Year $120,000
5 Years $600,000
10 Years $1,200,000
15 Years $1,800,000
20 Years $2,400,000

$20,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $240,000
5 Years $1,200,000
10 Years $2,400,000
15 Years $3,600,000
20 Years $4,800,000

Achieving wealth on the Internet is an absolute reality. Stay motivated, stay smart, and don't risk losing it all by playing games.

While I am not there yet, I am certainly on my way, and I see the potential. Good luck to all!

tenerifejim

11:19 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just a thought for the guys in Netherlands and UK complaining about tax- have you considered offshore bank accounts?

activeco

11:23 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just a thought for the guys in Netherlands and UK complaining about tax- have you considered offshore bank accounts?

What about them?
You have to report it anyway.

activeco

11:27 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yeah, but if I make a penny today, and double my money every day, I'll have $4,800,000 in less than a month.

True. I think these words from dataguy should summarize the topic.

janethuggard

12:34 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This thread turned south quickly. Must be the ever increasing proximity to the perigee moon.

Typical...

Try to give somebody a warm fuzzy and they act like you served them poison. To the miserable 'nice' is always a poison.

tenerifejim

3:43 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You have to report it anyway.

Yes, all the rich people in the world declare offshore financial investments. Silly me.

ergophobe

5:52 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Late to the party, but I didn't see anyone note that the fundamental assertion is flawed, that assertion being: "Since the long term income potential from being legit is great, you should never cheat."

The flawed assumption is that I can only get one domain in my life, so I better take care of it. If I were a blackhat SEO (I'm not), I would be used to just burning domains every day. I wouldn't care if it got shut down. If I could make $5000 off a domain that gets banned after two months and it only took me a day's work to put it up, why would I struggle to maintain the good reputation of my domain and pull in $1000/month while I toil on it day in and day out? What is "shortsighted" about making 10x as much money and, as some blackhats around here have done, doing it for years? There are three reasons that I can think ofnot to create junk sites that violate the Adsense terms:

- I actually feel better when I produce something of value for the community
- I don't know how to do blackhat SEO
- I'm afraid of any and all authority figures, including the Google cops.

Note that "I want to increase my long term earnings" is not on the list.

It's all ROI. Sure, Adsense at $1000/mo earns me a quarter million in 20 years, but if I'm spending 40 hours per week on it, that's still only about $5.81/hour and I can do better than that bagging groceries.

Not to rain on Buzz's parade. Motivating people is a great thing, but pouring all your energy into something with a bad return is not.

SlyOldDog

8:23 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>What about them?
>>You have to report it anyway.

ROFL! I nearly pissed myself laughing when I read that.

ooh, somebody pass me a tissue to wipe my eyes :)

Edwin

10:53 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you change "income" to "monthly savings" in the first post, it also provides food for thought.

gmac17

1:41 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Inspiring thread but but no one gets rich trying to make money. Fill a need."

nobody gets rich trying to make money? you've got to be joking. I'm all for starting a business to fill a need, but there are plenty of rich people out there who cared about nothing other than making money....

SlyOldDog

6:35 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but you need two elements to get rich:

1) The desire
2) The plan

If either of these factors are not present then you need factor 3 - lot's of luck! :)

activeco

7:23 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>What about them?
>>You have to report it anyway.

ROFL! I nearly pissed myself laughing when I read that.

ooh, somebody pass me a tissue to wipe my eyes :)

I was serious, slydog.
If you think we live in a world where cheating is the basis of relationships than I think we have a problem.

Besides, you can try playing with a couple of $ thousands, but when it comes to serious money, there is no way you can enjoy it in the long run.

SlyOldDog

8:53 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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You are obviously not speaking from experience Activeco.

How many people you know personally were indicted for tax evasion who were using a company with nominee directors in an offshore juristiction for the purpose of receiving affiliate revenues from a country they do not live in?

I'll bet my last dollar, not a one.

vitaly

11:27 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if Indian, Chinese, Caribbean, Ukrainian, Brazilian, … webmasters pay the same %% of their adSense income as Americans do

Tigrou

12:01 pm on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was serious, slydog.
If you think we live in a world where cheating is the basis of relationships than I think we have a problem.

Besides, you can try playing with a couple of $ thousands, but when it comes to serious money, there is no way you can enjoy it in the long run.

It's definitely doable, and not just on a big scale.

There are at least ten thousand contracting coders in Europe that route most of their money through offshore (luxembourg etc.) accounts. Various companies will do this for you.

High-tax countries in the EU don't like it but 2 years ago finally accepted them's the breaks and instituted a witholding tax. this means that the tax havens have to tax the tax avoiders a little and split that money with the home country of the registrant.

Was supposed to jack up over a few years but I think that it will top out at 15%.

Basically means you pay 15% tax rate on that hidden money. Not bad. Downsides of course is that you have to GET that money out of the account in cash or use a credit card. and of course look over your shoulder for tax men...

activeco

2:56 pm on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If the meaning is to use some financial constructions to get better of, you don't have to use (risky) offshore businesses at all.
Almost every country have plenty of different ways to save taxes.
Even in the Netherlands you have a lot of options including investing in stocks, options, funds, etc. which, if you do it cleverly, can make a substantial overal return even if you lose (calculated) some money in the transactions self.

Zygoot

10:06 pm on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yesterday I made a few changes which have increased my earnings. I'll report the final statistics within a few days but currently it looks like my earnings have increased with 33 percent.

Some of the changes I made:

- I finally kicked out all the crapvertisers like eBay.
- Reimplemented Ad Links.
- Some ad repositioning on some parts of my website.

EPC and CTR are both higher now. The Ad Links seem to perform quite well now. The Ad Links EPC is twice as high as the average of my other channels.

bradley phil

1:29 am on Jul 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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zygoot, mixing things up like you did helps battle 'ad blindness' any regular visitors to your site may develop once their eyes know what parts of the page to avoid (noncontent areas) - hence that 30% boost will almost certainly be shortlived; let us know how you're getting on in one week's time!

however, constantly mixing things up can be a great way to increase revenue

NickCoons

12:16 am on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Speaking of removing "crapvertisers like eBay," does anyone have a list of commonly removed advertisers such as this that commonly improve click-throughs, or is this often a per-site situation?

Zygoot

4:24 pm on Jul 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Talking about financial potential,

I noticed Weblogs, Inc is now heading to earnings of $1 million a year ($2,739 a day) with AdSense.

They have currently reached a record of $2,335 a day and are still growing steady. They hope to boost this to $3,000 to $5,000 per dag average by the end of the year.

They have more than 70 blogs and employ 103 bloggers and 9 staff members. They also report to have more than 10 millions of pageviews a month, but they are still not a member of the AdSense Premium program..

Interesting to see how profitable blogging can be ;) They do have lots of staff costs but keep in mind that AdSense is NOT their only revenue source.

walkman

5:23 pm on Jul 21, 2005 (gmt 0)



>>I noticed Weblogs, Inc is now heading to earnings of $1 million a year ($2,739 a day) with AdSense.

is this after they pay the bloggers & staff, after paying the bloggers only, or the total of money that they get.

Zygoot

5:59 pm on Jul 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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>>is this after they pay the bloggers & staff, after paying the bloggers only, or the total of money that they get.

It's the total amount of money they get from AdSense. Jason Calacanis posted this on his blog two days ago, but he doesn't mention any details about the wages of the bloggers.

I'm wondering how they are paying their bloggers. I guess the best thing would be to give each person a few dollars per post.

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