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Financial Potential!

Where AdSense and other Site Income Can Put You

         

Buzliteyear

4:25 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Howdy,

This post is for two different audiences.

Audience #1
First, for those who take this program seriously. Between AdSense, Affiliate programs, banner advertisers, etc., your potential income is really limitless. Below is a chart that I use as a motivator. I hope you like it.

Audience #2
For those who continue to argue that it is okay to click on your own ads and other silliness, you are playing with fire. This forum is filled with webmasters who treated AdSense as a toy and got banned. Below is what you could be losing if you continue to push the edge.

Finally, these statistics do not take into account bank interest which would make the figures rise dramatically.


Projected AdSense and Other Site Income

$50 Per Month Income
1 Year $600
5 Years $3,000
10 Years $6,000
15 Years $9,000
20 Years $12,000

$100 Per Month Income
1 Year $1,200
5 Years $6,000
10 Years $12,000
15 Years $18,000
20 Years $24,000

$200 Per Month Income
1 Year $2,400
5 Years $12,000
10 Years $24,000
20 Years $36,000

$500 Per Month Income
1 Year $6,000
5 Years $30,000
10 Years $60,000
15 Years $90,000
20 Years $120,000

$1,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $12,000
5 Years $60,000
10 Years $120,000
15 Years $180,000
20 Years $240,000

$2,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $24,000
5 Years $120,000
10 Years $240,000
15 Years $360,000
20 Years $480,000

$5,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $60,000
5 Years $300,000
10 Years $600,000
15 Years $900,000
20 Years $1,200,000

$10,000 Per Month Income (UPS Club)
1 Year $120,000
5 Years $600,000
10 Years $1,200,000
15 Years $1,800,000
20 Years $2,400,000

$20,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $240,000
5 Years $1,200,000
10 Years $2,400,000
15 Years $3,600,000
20 Years $4,800,000

Achieving wealth on the Internet is an absolute reality. Stay motivated, stay smart, and don't risk losing it all by playing games.

While I am not there yet, I am certainly on my way, and I see the potential. Good luck to all!

ownerrim

4:08 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"I'll be a millionarre!"

Is that, like, a rich pirate (arre!)?

j/k

xxxxxpp

10:07 pm on Jul 8, 2005 (gmt 0)



lol, I want to be a rich pirate too, arrr!

vitaly

10:25 am on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My first big site from 1997 reached middle 1998 the usual traffic of 25 thousand visitors a month.

Since 7 years stable in this range.

This example indicates to me that web income is more stable than day job paychecks. Even having prestigious U degree does not protect you from being fired, economy stagnations, etc.

Going back to the post headline, the upside potential of day job is dismal compared to entrepreneurial income. There are many posts here indicating that people doubled and tripled their income within months. Is that possible in the day job world?

rj87uk

10:37 am on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Dont count the pennies until they are in the bank"
Comes to mind...

valley

11:28 am on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Buzliteyear.
In reality the future can't be forseen but - ppc and earnings are now starting to be squeezed to as low as possible.
The earning'trend' of today is not guaranteed and imho it will be less and less for the same effort .
Website traffic can be decimated or rendered useless by a number of reasons.
The market is self adjusting,spiking up and down with the goal of maximizing profits, ie: you get what the big guys give you and they give you just enough to keep your business until you are needed, not a cent more.
If they can find a better solution to make money you (and anyone else) will be dropped.
Forecasting incomes on the internet is a futile exercise.
Lets be more careful,don't assume your income will always increase etc,be ready for quick changes and stay in touch with common sense.
Tomorrow can be great or bad, none can be sure of even the next three month trends.
One day at the time to the best of your capability

wildfiction

7:39 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if Google will set up a program where they just buy their own stock and send it to you instead of the cash cheque. That way after 20 years you will own a most of Google...

gpilling

8:11 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Twist -

You sell your home for $100,000 at %6 interest for 30 years,
You get $574,349.12 for your $100,000 home
on the other hand, if you buy a $100,000 home

Actually, you would only get $215,838.19 for your house. But if you would like to pay that much, I have a few houses that I would be delighted to sell you, and I will even carry the note myself :)

Hunter

8:34 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if Google will set up a program where they just buy their own stock and send it to you instead of the cash cheque.

You can easily set up your own plan to do this :)

alwaysthinking

8:56 pm on Jul 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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All is well in Google-Land and my "Little Clicketties" are being tallied at their normal CTR once again...

I'm so grateful to ALL the fine Google AdWords advertisers who are kind enough to place Ads on my little piece of cyber-turf of the Net. And I'm thankful that some of my visitor find these ads interesting enough to further investigate, and generate a very nice income for me. I thank you too my "Little Clicketties" .... one & all!

That's just my Term of Endearment... I have no relationship to my "Little Clicketties" (my word play on an old W.C. Field's saying)... Other than the fact that they somehow (95% of the time through search) found my site & enough click on an AdSense ad link to pay me more money than any employer ever paid me - the CHEAPSKATES they are now-a-days!

So go ahead all you naysayers that "normal" small publishers can't earn a good living from Google AdSense using HONEST methods. I am enjoying more freedom & financial rewards than I ever thought possible for what basically is just your average Joe individual. And I have no fear of being booted out of the Google AdSense program for I do nothing against Google's TOS (as far as I interpret them).

Those wayward publishers that attempt to "game" the system or downright cheat can't really even enjoy the fruits of their ill-begotten labor (if they even do profit), as it will certainly be for short-term gain and their days are numbered as publishers in good standing. Mend you ways and come back into the light before it is too late. Once you're gone... all chance for making decent $$$ from "average" web content will be negated! Come on now... most of our web sites are "just average".. But I do admire the few REALLY nice sites that some members have built - my hat's off to you in respect!

I'm not anyone special (just happened to be lucky enough to accumulate what appears to be some good content over the years, and didn't have to start from scratch)... So I believe just about anyone else can achieve a measure of success it the ware willing to invest a lot of time and honest effort at producing "quality" content (or at least different).

Perhaps the only drawback, at least for me, is that I may be "weirding-out" a bit being isolated in my bedroom glued to my laptop all the time. It's wireless,,, I should consider going out in public and attempting to socialize with "real people" every once in a while.... HA! Luckily I recognize the same symptom being displayed by some others in this Forum... so at least I'm not the only one with this "affliction..." HA! We all pay are own price, don't we? HA!

So AdSense's financial potential? Virtually limitless as long as you keep your nose clean and work at it! Where does it get me... out of the DANG office... any and every one of them! I wouldn't mind it if I never had to step foot into another office for the rest of my life... HA!

vabtz

4:29 am on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)



I do not wish to diminish the statement that you shouldn't commit fraud.

However posting a "statistical" graph and saying look at what your missing out on is a bit rich. The achievement of those numbers, while possible, for many people will never be accomplished.

If you like hype, then I suggest Amway or Quixter may provide fulfilling careers for you.

alwaysthinking

3:22 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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vabtz - your assertions are very correct & I agree 100%

1) The achievement of those numbers, while possible, for many people will never be accomplished

2) you shouldn't commit fraud

Let me REINFORCE both of our sentiments & advice:

Not ALL web site publishers will prosper using AdSense - Google is just providing most all publishers with the OPPORTUNITY to monetize their web sites. What actually happens with this opportunity is dependent upon the labor & dedication of the individual publishers... and many times just plain "LUCK."

HOWEVER If a publisher commits fraud or attempts to cheat Google's system (which is also cheating AdWords advertisers & other AdSense publishers), with certainty they will be caught and prohibited from use AdSense as a very viable means of monetizing their web sites.

PUBLISHERS GUARANTEE FAILURE BY COMMITTING FRAUD OR OTHERWISE CHEATING ADSENSE TOS

And only FOOLS limit their chances for success for life![/b]

Anyone caught cheating or defrauding Google Adsense very well could find themselves on a Black List that prevents them from participating in any other reputable online marketing program!

It would be within Google's corporate mission to help rid the Net community of crooks - as that is EXACTLY what you are if you break Google AdSense TOS.

While some will argue why would Google inform their competitors about the "bad apples" that they kicked out of Google AdSense? Wouldn't Google want the "bad apples" to sign up for a competitors contextual ad program to cause harm to Google's competitors?

To which I say, that is malicious, short-sighted strategy. The WISE long-sighted strategy would be to PROTECT THE ADVERTISERS MONEY by making a Black Listed of the identity of ALL publishers that have been kicked out of AdSense available for all to examine! This single act would go a LONG WAY toward curbing online marketing dishonesty across the entire Net. Anyone that has any thought of earning an honest living via the Internet would not do anything to risk being BLACKLISTED from all reputable online marketing programs.

vabtz

3:09 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



What a joke, this made the frontpage?

This post is sheer speculation. The equivelant of an infomercial saying "you could make all this money, Susan did"

There are better ways to illustrate that fraud is a poor choice than punch up numbers most people will never realize. How about you explain to them that fraud is a pointless activity. That people who spend their time working on fraud schemes could spend it on less risky schemes that don't work out usually.

.What a load a HOOIE.
-FIN-

moneymancn

3:20 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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When we used to give similar projections to potential investment or pension clients not many believed us!
has anything changed?

MM

vabtz

3:36 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



Its not that I don't beleive that SOME people POSSIBALLY could make that much.

Its that most people won't, so why make an argument against fraud using the logic that you could make this much to a group of people that has already decided they can't by honest means.

[edit]
If you don't believe me then I suppose you don't beleive statistics showing that most new businesses fail.

oldpro

4:13 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Audience #2
For those who continue to argue that it is okay to click on your own ads and other silliness, you are playing with fire. This forum is filled with webmasters who treated AdSense as a toy and got banned. Below is what you could be losing if you continue to push the edge.

As an adwords advertiser to audience #2...

The original poster's numbers look good on paper, however me as well as many other advertisers are opting out of the content match option. For the very reason click fraud is getting out of hand. Audience #2 is ruining this money making opportunity for themselves as well as the honest publishers.

europeforvisitors

4:41 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)



however me as well as many other advertisers are opting out of the content match option. For the very reason click fraud is getting out of hand. Audience #2 is ruining this money making opportunity for themselves as well as the honest publishers.

Shortsighted and/or crooked publishers will be hurting themselves as:

1) More budgets are shifted toward site-targeted CPM ads, which allow advertisers to pick and choose where their ads run; and...

2) Google provides more advertiser controls and options for contextual CPC ads.

I won't be a bit surprised if, within the next year or two, Google's current one-size-fits-all content network becomes the equivalent of "occupant" direct mail or cheap RON banners on traditional ad networks. The real money will be in site-targeted CPM ads, CPC ads on advertiser-approved sites, and other premium options.

Buzliteyear

5:34 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What a joke, this made the frontpage?
This post is sheer speculation. The equivelant of an infomercial saying "you could make all this money, Susan did"

There are better ways to illustrate that fraud is a poor choice than punch up numbers most people will never realize. How about you explain to them that fraud is a pointless activity. That people who spend their time working on fraud schemes could spend it on less risky schemes that don't work out usually.

.What a load a HOOIE.
-FIN-

The well-intended post was meant to share one web designer's thoughts and goals and maybe to offer inspiration and motivation to fellow forum mebers since we all spend so much time here together.

It was not meant to be a definitive roadmap to success.

Clearly, this escaped you.

But, good luck to you.

Rollo

5:43 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Buzliteyear, $4,800,000 is tempting but you forgot a couple things in there... diminishing marginal returns from Google (as reveue goes up, it seems that % of revenue share goes down). Also don't forget taxes, expenses, and of course the opportunity cost of sitting in front of a computer day after day vs investing that time in another business.

If you factor in the risk variable, things change dramatically (i.e. your website(s) fall our of the serps, get hijacked, the market moves away from content match, competition increases, Google losing marketshare, etc... ) It's really not as pretty as you make it look.

Erku

5:58 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think starting in September the revenues will again go up because more advertisers will compete before the holidays.

What are your thougts about this?

In the coming years the future of the online advertising is bright. Then it will become regular.

unreviewed

6:01 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I find it very interesting that when I describe to others the potential earnings that could be possible via the Adsence program, that while all seem very interested, most don’t jump on the bandwagon. But then again, we all know that if you learn to play the piano very well, you can make a good living, and yet very few are buying pianos … and of those that do, few have the gifts required to stand out.

dataguy

6:42 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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20 Years $4,800,000

Yeah, but if I make a penny today, and double my money every day, I'll have $4,800,000 in less than a month.

Can't wait to get started....

vik_c

7:33 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Interesting but twenty years into the future is too long a period for any industry. In the Internet industry even five years is very long. I think webmasters need to focus on the user experience. Everything else follows. It's Adsense today, it could be something else tomorrow. Money should be a byproduct of a job well done.

twist

10:50 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I find it very interesting that when I describe to others the potential earnings that could be possible via the Adsence program, that while all seem very interested, most don’t jump on the bandwagon. But then again, we all know that if you learn to play the piano very well, you can make a good living, and yet very few are buying pianos … and of those that do, few have the gifts required to stand out.

If there were ads in the Help Wanted section of newspapers looking for good pianist starting at $120K a year. There would soon be so many people playing piano that once all the $120K jobs are filled you would find desperate pianist looking for work who would do the same job for $60K and soon those would be replaced by those who would do the job for $30K and so on until a pianist would be pulling minimum wage. Isn't that kind of what happened in the first internet boom. People holding signs, "will write code for food!"

If I found a great way to make money, I would bury my secret in the backyard not shout it from the hilltop.

ferfer

11:08 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For those living in cheaper countries, it's easier to do a luxurious living with not that much, imagine all the countries where you could live with the same internet job, but with annual salaries from $1,000 to $5,000, your salary has now 10 times the power!

I mean big capital cities where you have all you need.

It's like unlimited budget, kind of ridiculous!

Keep you job, move you life, grow your ***! hehe

walkman

12:08 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> numbers most people will never realize.

yp, but most people will give up right away, or not do what is required to achieve the numbers. It's part of life.

btsteed

1:10 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Financial institutions constantly remind their customers that "Past results are not indicative of future returns."

Anyone with long-term experience with revenue from the web knows this is true...what's here today is often gone tomorrow.

However, it's likely there will always be *some* way to monetize web content. We can be sure that will continue. I wouldn't base any 20 year predictions on the current methodology, though.

Having said that, goals and dreams shape us more than we sometimes realize.

iblaine

2:28 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Inspiring thread but but no one gets rich trying to make money. Fill a need.

growingdigital

4:37 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Inspiring thread but but no one gets rich trying to make money. Fill a need.

Good point! IMO the most important thing written in this thread...

janethuggard

4:42 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It must be slow around the web. Can't tell from here. A whole lot of day dreaming going on :) Go back to work and make these dreams reality ;)

SlyOldDog

7:09 am on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It's the summer time. The sun has affected everyones' thought patterns I think :)
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