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Aetos
Better to build a site about something which you already know at least something about--something which will keep you interested.
Building sites around "money words" may get you some money in the short term, but it won't last.
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"bird poop" and "queen mum" are the two single-highest-paying key phrases.
Wonder if a bird ever pooped on the Queen Mum? One pooped on both myself and my wife once - it hit her, bounced off and hit me too. You could see the bloody seagull sniggering as it flew off.
I hate seagulls :(
There you go - I'm still on topic. Seagulls is a good keyword!
Actually, I did wonder if Camilla was a good keyword nowadays.
High paying keywords are not the only way to make money with Adsense.
This is why AdSense is not a Get Rich Quick program, and also why AdSense is far better than any Get Rich Quick program.
P.S. There are NOT any $50 clicks out there and I doubt anyone in the history of AdSense has ever earned that much from a single click.
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Aetos
"do you know the combination to this safe?"
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"what's your ATM pin number?"
You're looking at it the wrong way around.
But of course then everyone would know what they were for that subject. Not a good idea. Which is probably why we don't see threads like that here.
That pretty much leaves asking HOW TO FIND the appropriate keywords for any given subject, rather than asking WHICH KEYWORDS to use.
That conversation would probably fit better in the Keyword Discussion Forum of course.
Maybe not $50, but in the old days (18 months ago), $10 clicks on some subjects were a regular occurrence and I've seen more than a handful of $20 clicks.
Competition and smart pricing took care of that, probably for the good of the industry, but not for my good ;)
That's not how Adsense works (or at least, shouldn't work). People that post comments like these obviously haven't read the TOS fully. You can't create a site around a high paying keyword. Apart from being against the TOS, there is simply no market in it anymore. It has been done to death. I am sure that the first people to do it may have made money, but it no longer works, and also degrades the whole programme. One only has to see the amount of scraper sites to get an idea of what I mean.
Adsense only TRULY works for those that have established websites that decide to integrate the programme, and not the other way around. Of course, there are examples out there that will gladly prove me wrong. However, for best results build a website focused on your expertise, knowledge or niche, build links to it, get it in the SERPS, spend time learing about your visitors and demographics, and then think about Adsense.
Don't go down the "meso=adsense=bigbucks" route. If it worked, most of the members in this forum would be retired and laying on a beach, not working hard to build traffic and ensuring that their site meets their visitor's needs. That is the secret of Adsense.
Sorry, I know this is not what you want to hear, but that's the way it is. Or at least in my books.
Chris :)
Aetos
I get the impression that Google bids are lower on the whole (although maybe not in every area). Plus many bidders, especially in the high-expense areas, do not run their ads on the content network. And Google refunds a certain portion of content network clicks back to the advertiser, and then takes a cut off the top. The figure an AdSense publisher sees is vastly lower, sad to say.
Not very related in my experience. Still they give you some idea.
I know one keyword that gets a high bid on O of $50.00. On Adsense it seems to pay between $0.25 and $2.00 depending on who is running ads on content sites at the moment.
You might get a better idea of what the word/phrase is worth by looking down to number 10 or 20 on Overture.
In the case I mentioned above, the number 2 bid is less than $2.50, and number 10 is something less than $1.00.
Do the Overture Bid Tool's max bid results parallel to AdSense bids?
In figuring out which ads pay the highest, look at the profit margins of the industry your targeting. For example, mortgages, life insurance, and debt consolidation have really high margins. Coincidentally, they also pay quite a bit per click because they can afford to. Subjects like candles and car mats don't pay as high because there's hardly any profit. So, do your homework on the profit margins and use the overture rates only to help qualify your thoughts and analysis.
Subjects like candles and car mats don't pay as high because there's hardly any profit
Then again you might get 20,000 visitors a day looking for candles and make up the difference on volume.
I don't get a lot of high priced clicks in my area but 400,000 visitors a month generate a nice bit of cash.
Targeting keywords that pay a lot per click is one strategy. Other strategies are to build a high traffic site, and to target keywords that result in ads with a high clickthru rate.
I didn't write this page with advertising in mind, but added adsense to it after it had been online for a year, building traffic, because I needed the cash. It had already grown to a hundred thousand hits a month, and was in the top ten for many keywords, and #1 for a fair number. I was very fortunate to discover right away that the ads had a high clickthrough rate.
I have a bunch of other pages that I publish adsense on, but have removed it from some because they had very low clickthrough rates, in most cases earning less than a dollar a month per page. If you're wondering why I don't bother earning that dollar, it's because I think the ads detract from the pages, and I want to encourage repeat visitors, especially visitors who might link my site. Getting linked builds traffic to my site, so there is a lot of value to having popular pages with no ads at all.
I'm not supposed to say how much I earn
That's not true, they just revised the rules recently and you CAN state your earnings.
You're still not supposed to disclose your CTR or eCPM though.
That's not true, they just revised the rules recently and you CAN state your earnings. You're still not supposed to disclose your CTR or eCPM though.
However, that rule doesn't seem to bother quite a lot of people. Nor do the mods step in and slap wrists I note.
Anyway, I think what is more important is how much you are you paying for each person in relation to the how many people you need to get 1 sale. If you pay 15 cents per click and you get one sale every 100 people that come to your site and you are selling an affiliate product and only making 15 bucks for each that you sell then you would actually only be able to break even. It seems to me however that just being in the Overature program gets you ranked higher in the search engines.
Take this site for example:
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What's so special about this page (for <snip>) that it would be on the first page with the Big Boys like lavasoft and Download.com? This is nothing but an Affiliate seller selling an Affiliate product yet he was able to get into the yahoo directory when they specifically state that they don't allow Affiliates.
Anyway I think Yahoo gives more weight to the pay per click customers and thus they will put your site on the front page of the search engines. That might be more profitable to you. I would check that out as well.
[edited by: Jenstar at 6:16 am (utc) on April 29, 2005]
[edit reason] No "outting" of publisher sites or their keywords please! [/edit]
[edited by: Jenstar at 3:29 pm (utc) on April 30, 2005]
[edit reason] No promotional URLs please, as per TOS [/edit]
I wonder why so many people are flat out against people making any kind of money on the net.
I love the easy questions:-))
Because Joe Public/people in general's concept of us is that we don't actually do anything!
We just press a button and the computer does all the work and throws huge amounts of money at us for nothing...
We don't work, we don't create anything of value, they don't understand what we do therefore they fear it, we talk an alien language and we smell!
There...in other words we're not nice people to know because the perception is that we rule the world and screw up their lives everytime something crashes:-)
