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10:25 am on Feb 3, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Everyone has noticed the lack of logic Adsense is currently is facing including revenues, policies and attitude.

It was a time where Adsense bible (policy) was a good place to hide to justify some the actions.

Now it looks that the management of the policies has been taken over by kids and robots.

This is not an emotional statement but can be proven by facts:

-First ranked websites are now disapproved by Adsense because of ‚poor‘ content (30 pages with unique and original contents) .
Is Adsense deciding on our (even clean) content ( 1984: we pay you only if you publish what WE like).

-Translation of owned websites is rejected by Adsense because of 'copying existing contents' (is Google not translating his own policies?)

-Adsense pannel: apparently approved websites are not in reality , and empty websites are approved.
-no transparency on the revenues we slaves are generating.
-Some the phone calls of Adsense were even encouraging in the past some doubtful ads placements.

I use to belong to the one who believed in this company by laughing about the ‚bad‘ publishers who have lost their account.
Today I m happy not to rely on Adsense only, as I undertand that their days are counted if they still follow this road.

Adsense if you wish to recover the trust we use to have on you, be transparent and consistent!
The SEO is the same 'black box' with inconsistent policies, forget about the algos, they impact only the ones who follow blindly their policies. Take a look at the webmaster tool and you will discover a Disneyland control tower.
Last but not least: even Secret Services have a phone number, why is Adsense hiding behind zero content emails and not providing a phone number for a least it's ‚premium, clients.

Have a nice Sunday
3:43 am on Feb 22, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Is it logic lost, or merely doing business ... and you are not a party in that?

g's ad biz is a take it or leave it kind of thing. You take it, and get what they give you. You have no say in that regard.

If you play the game you take your chances. As they say in Las Vegas: the house always wins.

YMMV
10:24 pm on Feb 22, 2019 (gmt 0)

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As they say in Las Vegas: the house always wins.


Depends what game you are playing and how well you know the game.

If your memory is good enough and you stick to the odds, you will beat the house in the long run.

Unfortunately, you will also eventually be excluded from the house.
12:30 am on Feb 23, 2019 (gmt 0)

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^^^ Exactly! :)
4:53 pm on Feb 23, 2019 (gmt 0)

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I used to think more this way. G, why are you not doing this or stopping this? Come on now, help us help you?

I have since realized that silence is golden.

The problems we face to our websites can only be multiplied by 100,000% to somebody like google.

They are basically in the world's crosshairs and still manage to stay afloat.

I do agree they should be more responsive to the webmasters who are on their side, but it maybe hard to figure this out.

Team google. I keep hoping they are silently collecting data and the bad players and making things like their ranking go up and down to say "your not playing fair so enjoy the ride".

Issues that seem very important to you may not be as important for a company trying to stay ahead.

If only the world worked for what is right, rather than money.
6:33 pm on Feb 23, 2019 (gmt 0)

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@Tangor
I was just sharing my thoughts (being dry).
Your response is either constructive nor has any substance.
Fortunately Google is not Vegas and the world is not Vegas, Thanks God!... for the world.
In my country we say: When you sell intelligence, try always to carry a sample with you.
@Steven29
It looks that clean publishers are currently paying the price for the 'players' of 'games', at the end they will definitively pay...... like in Vegas in the morning after a night of games.

Post Scriptum:
Meanwhile I ve got more clarity from Adsense staff.
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@Sissi ... The OP list appeared to be a collection of chuckles dressed up as serious satire. Replied in the same vein. :)

Everyone has noticed the lack of logic Adsense is currently is facing including revenues, policies and attitude.


This howler suggested the post was offered as satire. Why? Adsense is currently pulling in more dollars for g than ever before. Obviously their logic is working impeccably!

YMMV

Otherwise the OP is a tired list of grievances by dissatisfied webmaster(s).

If, on the other hand, you can produce a contract between a site and g/adsense where the second party (site) has any rights under that contract I will gladly adjust my understanding of g's "obligations" to second party.
9:20 pm on Feb 23, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Otherwise the OP is a tired list of grievances by dissatisfied webmaster(s).

And they wonder why AdSense can't be reached by phone...

"First ranked" does not automatically mean you're a good fit for the AdSense program, nor does any inconsistency in the enforcement of program policies, like an "empty" site allegedly slipping through the net, give you the right to an approval. I've seen quite a lot of these rambling stories over the years, as well as the sites behind them, and never have I seen one that did not deserve the boot, one way or another, so I tend to side with Google (particularly and automatically when moot references to 1984 are made).
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@Tangor
No problem at all, life is a satire
@Robzilla
I m not talking about MfA, but about solid websites with unique content, good design and a golden domain name (I'm in this industry since 2001 and yes I know about the less impact of DN on SEO).
An 'empty' site would never survive a first page during more than one week based on the new algorithms.
Without giving further details, Adsense is currently discussing with selected publishers the arbitrary policy application.
Yes there is need to clean-up the publishers mass, but Adsense is now aware hopefully about a need for differentiation.
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I think it all boils down to the fact that g (at some future time) will require PAY TO PLAY. Once something is "indispensable" they can charge whatever they like, ads be danged.

What is taking so much longer is webmasters waking up that the old time "partnership" between them and g was bait and switch from the get go... and that is not an ugly on g, just reality that all good things come to an end, or change.

THAT SAID, one can still work with the model in force and do well. Just a bit more difficult and demanding on time and effort. MEANWHILE, one can also excel by expanding beyond g with direct, sponsors, and having the best content there is. There remains other means of driving traffic, MSM, SM, MLM, Trades, etc. Explore all. Leave nothing off the table. With g you get one entree and no desert, all the rest is a smorgasbord of opportunity.
7:50 am on Feb 24, 2019 (gmt 0)

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Fully agree !