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First visit no Ad (certainly GDRP-related)

         

Dimitri

7:35 am on Jul 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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Hi

I assumed it deserved a dedicated topic; and the Adsense's GDPR one is too big, and stuffed with too many different/unrelated things.

Randomly (so it might be an experimentation), I noticed that, the first time you visit a "site", the "page" will have no ads (or backup ads being served), if you refresh the page immediately, ads appear.

This is not a matter of brand safety, this is the same with pages which are already in the Adsense's index, and serving ads. But, it's related to the GDPR, or more precisely the cookie consent.

In this case, the first time you visit a site, no ads are served, but adsense/doubleclick writes a cookie, called "test cookie" and for the value, the string "Check for Consent".

If you refresh the page ads are served.

As I said, I saw this randomly at my sites, as well as at other sites, so it might be an experimentation. To me, it might be an attempt from Adsense to handle all these cookie consent banners which are saying "by continuing you agree etc..." . By showing ads (and its cookie), only on the second page visited, this is conforming to this kind of cookie consent banner.

ref: [webmasterworld.com...]

keyplyr

8:34 am on Jul 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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first time you visit a "site"
A site, or your site?

it's related to the GDPR
Doubtful

The GDPR does not control what your browser displays, nor does it control whether Adsense displays an ad on a publishers page.

The GDPR is an EU statute, a law. If Google Adsense sees you are non-compliant for EU users, it may issue you a warning. That warning may eventually develop into an action on your account if not corrected, but that's about the extent of it.

And yes, it does sound like the missing ad issue related to Brand Safety.

Dimitri

10:02 am on Jul 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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A site, or your site?


As I said:

I saw this randomly at my sites, as well as at other sites


The GDPR does not control what your browser displays, nor does it control whether Adsense displays an ad on a publishers page.

The GDPR no, but Google wants to be compliant. So when I said GDPR-related, I mean, something Adsense is doing to fulfill GDPR (and ePrivacy directive).

As I said above, adsense produces a cookie when it happens, called "test cookie", with the string "Check for consent". So this is related to GDPR / Cookie Law.

The cookie law, says you need to obtain "a" consent, before drooping a cookie. Web sites refined it as "if someone is informed and continues, then this is a form consent", which is generally admitted . Different regulators are also flexible about this, but there is no clear definition of what is "continue", some regulators consider that a "continue" is when you click on the page, to go to a second page, others consider that "scrolling" the page, is acceptable. But in all events, a site is not supposed to drop a cookie, before an action from the user. So, I think that what I am observing is an experimentation from Adsense. Wait for an interaction with the page, before serving ad and the cookie. Otherwise, why would they drop a cookie named "test cookie" with the value "check for consent" ?

And yes, it does sound like the missing ad issue related to Brand Safety.

With due respect, "no". When I visit the home page, of a big EU site, it's the same. And as I said, refreshing "immediately" the page, and ads are showing. It takes half an hour or a whole hour before ads show, because of brand safety, so may be some sites get crawled faster, but not in a matter of seconds. And, if I clear my cache, and return to the exact same home page, of this exact same big site, then again the first hit is not showing ads.

But also, it seems to be randomly.

Adsense knows its in the target of the EU regulators, and being carefully watched. Adsense tried to put the responsibility of any problem to publishers, but it didn't work, regulators said that both the publisher and adsense are liable. So, Adsense has to show its good will, and show that they respecting are closely as possible things.

keyplyr

10:14 am on Jul 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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It takes half an hour or a whole hour before ads show, because of brand safety
Not my experience.

Ads usually appear after one or two page loads. This is true for sites outside the EU by users outside the EU so indication is it's Brand Safety.

Sorry, I don't agree with what you're reporting is GDPR related. Interesting premise though.

Dimitri

10:59 am on Jul 13, 2018 (gmt 0)

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ok