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5:29 am on Mar 5, 2018 (gmt 0)

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hi guys, i see a lot of you work with adsense and websites for probably years now, i am just starting out so if u have any guidance that can help me out. thank u
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Hello cbhh and welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com]

If you do not have experience with building a web site, you may find the discussions useful in the New to Web Development Forum [webmasterworld.com]

Also, I suggest reading through some of the many discussion here in the Adsense Forum.

Most topics have been discussed.
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advices about starting a website

My advise, don't start a website... I am saying this humoristically, but, a part of me believes this now. I've been developing sites since 1996, no matter if it was earning me money or not, I was enthusiast and happy doing this, but over the years, things became so difficult, complex and rough.

Now I no longer feel this enjoyment, I still do the job, but the heart's not there any more.
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Another helpful link: Being a Webmaster - Who, Why, What, How? [webmasterworld.com]
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so if u have any guidance that can help me out.


This is serious ... Bung a whole load of money at Google and you'll be sorted, otherwise keep it in your pocket and walk away and rest assured that you'll not lay awake at night wondering what the heck you may have done wrong to deserve such a beating for doing everything right!

Two questions:

1. Is it your intention to cover something that has already been done many times over?

2. The answer to 1. is most probably yes, therefore what are you going to do that is not only better but will also attract traffic outside of the Googlesphere because Google will not give you large amounts of traffic for free these days to a new site.
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Seems unfair to quell the enthusiasm of someone just starting out just because you have become embittered by your experience. The basics are still pretty much the same, and I still find enjoyment in it (though I, too, have had my share of "downtime"). It doesn't have to be complex, and there's more help available these days. There's just fewer tricks & cheats* to it, so you can focus on that what's important and will endure instead. I wouldn't necessarily recommend applying all of Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com] today, but the focus on good content hasn't changed in 15 years, and for good reason: the user experience is, and should always have been, the focus of one's efforts, and the user wants good, accessible content. It's easiest if you start small and provide something of real value, something that's not yet available or that you can do better. Keep improving, and learning in the process, and you should do just fine.

* Like buying hyphenated keyword domains to jump straight to the top of the Yahoo! SERPs, some 18 years ago.
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The challenge is to think of a wholly unique topic to cover and something you'd love to sink hours into maturing over the months ahead.

Starting out back in early-mid 2000s as I did, the web was like an oil field - you could set up a website on just about any topic and slap ads on it, making decent money even from trash attempts but this often times required little effort and planning and sometimes the return was unbelievably excellent. Today, it's a stiffer market with more competition that requires more of your attention and more quality to it. Advertisers have also gotten smarter about where their dollars go.

So don't go into a web venture expecting to make any money from it for at least the first few months (I personally think 12) unless it's a dynamite idea (like Facebook 2.0 or something). The promise of money tends to detract from creating a genuinely useful and valuable web property - and it is a "property" to be sure as it is unique to the web with its own URL, audience and topic. Treat it like you're growing a brand and you'll be off to a good start.

But please don't rip off anyone else's work - too many newcomers still think this is okay to do to help build their "brand". Earn your place and your audience will reward you with a seat in the Great Web Pantheon :)
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But please don't rip off anyone else's work

And I would add, be prepared to get your content scrapped. Because, to me, that is the biggest problem nowadays. Whatever you try to do, you'll get scrappers taking your content, republishing it, and they do this at such large scale, that this is really demotivating. They often rank higher thank you, so yes, some have short life time, and will disappear, but professional scrapers produce tons of sites, all the time to replace themselves.
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I would add: if your content is expensive to produce, then do not bother.

If you can produce content cheaply, then by all means proceed. Also remember that Google (through its so-called AI) and despite their official statements, has no way to tell if something is quality or not. So you will not be rewarded for spending time and money producing quality.

Look at all the sensationalist fake news, ripped-off content and cheaply produced articles on big websites and you will see what works.
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you will not be rewarded for spending time and money producing quality.
Interesting opinion... not my experience.
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just because you have become embittered by your experience.


If this was aimed at me then no, I am not embittered whatsoever, certainly like many others I have become extremely wary of anything that Google supposedly does for our benefit when it has only one agenda, looking after itself, and everyone needs to learn that lesson and especially so for newbies.

so if u have any guidance that can help me out.


I don't know in which country you are however something I have noticed in my widget trade in the USA is the current dominance of WordPress blog-style sites v regular/handmade/column template sites in that they are all being created with a similar one column magazine layout of:

Text
Image
Text
Image
Text
Image
Text
Image

I must check out other widget industries.
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Interesting opinion... not my experience.


It depends on how you define quality: if it takes weeks of research, interviews, translations,researching locations/hikes/travel etc to gather the materials to write an original article with images, then that is quality.
Even if you do get some traffic to that article from Google, within a few weeks or months the derivative articles will rank above you.
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you will not be rewarded for spending time and money producing quality.

Quality is necessary but not sufficient.

I think we scared the OP off, 4 days 12 posts and no sign of a response....
 

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