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"If someone has google adsense on his/her site, and they get an IP randomiser/scrambler, would that person be able to click the banners 10-20 times per day and get away with it?"
This worried me, because i have advertised via google.
Anyone know what google do to prevent this?
Oh please. You know bloody well YOU are the one with this "IP randomiser/scrambler" and you're just trying to figure out if you can trick Google and make some money. And here I thought people stopped using the old, "I have a friend who wants to know..." a long time ago.
Get out of Adsense before you ruin it for everybody.
I think the guys and gals at Google do not even need to be PHD's to figure this out
I supect it might be harder to detect with a site recieving 500 plus genuine clicks per day but would they be stupid enough to jeoperdise the income they earned ( I suspect not )
under 500 clicks per day would be quite easy to spot ip trends from randomising ip addresses visitor on site time etc. etc.
steve
Not sure where this hostility came from either?
My answer to this question was: Sounds to simple to work, so i wouldnt take the risk if i was you.
Secret to making money from gambling is to not take any big risks, like i said "I wouldnt risk it for a few extra $$ per month". Infact i wouldnt even know how to scramble my IP"
You must be the life of every party mate?
It appears my mate asked a stupid question, it appears i was stupid for bothering to find an answer for a friend. I apologise.
Take care.
Welcome to WW. It does look suspicious when a new member posts a question like this as one of his first posts (especially as we seem to get a lot of new members who think fraud is acceptable). Then when he chooses to post it in Adsense rather than Adwords it adds to the suspicion. When you talk about IP randomisers and scramblers (which I didn't even know existed) you are disclosing that you know more than some of the webmasters here about how Google might track fraud. If you were an Adwords advertiser this question is something you could have posed to Google instead of asking here. It's the publishers who'd prefer to not ask Google this question and pose it to peers instead ;)
>>Anyone know what google do to prevent this?
That, I feel, is not relevant. As an Adwords advertiser your concern is likely - does Google charge you for fraudulent clicks? The answer to that is extensively covered in the Adwords FAQ. Analysing possible ways around click fraud detection is in nobody's long term interest.
WHY would you even know what an IP randomizer is? Why would you put 2 and 2 together like that if you did not have a plan?
You say you are "worried" about what? A competitor clicking you don't give a crap about "random".
Thats why the suspicion bud, because your question is so obvious it is a border-line confession.
Can htaccess be used to catch it?
absolutely nothing. Use it on your site to make money and then a month later come and open an "My site got banned from Adsense. I did nothing wrong" thread.
It doesn't take a PHD to figure out if a high number of clickthroughs start occurring out of patterns that never go further than the landing page then someone is trying to fiddle the system.
If you had the time to use random ip addresses, take random (maybe the word different or eclectic are better) paths through the site, make it look as though your visit(s) to the site are genuine browsers then you have enough time, intelligence, patience and forethought to make much more money doing something far more worthwhile.
IMHO anyway :).
what a forum!
For what its worth i had never heard the phrase IP randomiser until yesterday, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what it does.
For what its worth i was shocked when my mate told me about it, hence why i came here a.s.a.p to ask. Looks like i shouldnt of bothered.
Anyway, i have passed on what few reasonable responses i could find, and i thank you for your effort.
It does not take a rocket scientist to be able to randomise and anonomise your IP address every few seconds. I would guess that many here do it as a matter of course, so that websites do not pry into their habits.
However, as an earlier post points out, there is more to it than merely randomising your IP.
It is extremely unlikely that anyone is going to put on a public board how to systematically cheat at AdSense. And it seems a bit daft expecting a hackers guide to internet theft!
The question is - can you use an IP scrambler and force someone to lose their AdSense account?
The jury is still out on that one.
My theory is that can only take someone out if they're doing weird things, like little to no content on their web page or having messages like "click here to support this website!".
