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To agency or not to agency.

... that is the question

         

LuckyD

6:33 pm on Jul 23, 2015 (gmt 0)

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A while back a saw a post here talking about using DFP to pit multiple networks against each other. Seeing positive feedback from you guys I had given it a thought and started working on my DFP account setup.

Turns out that the learning curve is too steep for me at the time to get the setup done well enough. The plan was to use 4-6 different networks and create separate line items for each of them (US/INTL traffic + mobile/desktop).
In addition, I started looking into AdEx, which sounded good to me at that time.

Due to my demanding day job, I sometime struggle to find the time to get deep into our yield management, so I started looking for agencies. Found one, they reviewed our AdSense account at no cost, didn't find any major problems and told us that they could handle the DFP setup, get us into AdEx though their program (side note: my site is already qualified for BSA Unreserved), and handle all the incoming advertising requests we get now and then - somewhere between 1-3 per week. All that at a 10% management fee and monthly rolling contracts (all I'm allowed to say).

Coincidentally, around the same time Google reached out to me and offered account support and consultancy. I explained our very enthusiastic account manager, who happens to be a friend of a colleague of mine, the whole thing.

His advice was NOT to take the deal, learn how to set up DPF myself and forget about AdEx until the site reaches approx. 20MM monthly hits (around 1MM at the moment).

To give you some context, our top earner posts are very click heavy (panic posts), some hove lower CTR but more traffic. The idea was, for example, to use AdEx on the high-traffic-low-CTR posts, and the rest would get CPC-based ads.

What"s your opinion on the agency deal? Does it make sense to try AdEx on such a small site? Would really appreciate your input.

poppill

7:17 pm on Jul 23, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Depends on that monthly rolling contract. Are they only taking 10% off the top, or is there fees? What stops you from using them for setup, and then ending the contract?

Overall I agree with the rep, because DFP looks overwhelming at first, but its really not that bad when you just get a person who knows what they are doing to help you.

Take your four ad networks, and put them all on network, with a equal share of 25%.
Check how they all perform, put them in order. You put them in order based on top cpm, and secondarily fill rate.

So if I had two networks, both at 1.00, but one is 80% fill, and the other is 10%, you would clearly put the 80% fill first. If its close, give them a split.

Then you tell those networks to passback to the second best one, you take the ad tag from that second network, and give it to that first one.

On the dfp side you just take the #1 network, and give it 100% fill. Take partner 3, and give it as a passback to partner 2. You now have a basic waterfall, and its atleast something. You can backfill with adsense, or not just adding it on as supplement to your current adsense.

PM me if you want to talk more. If the agency is just taking a cut off the top, then sure, give it to them. If there is a monthly fee, probably not, unless your really killing it on the CPM's.

LuckyD

1:02 pm on Jul 24, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Hey Poppill, thanks a lot. Yeah, there's a monthly fee. Termination costs are there, but I need to read the fine print of the 5 page proposal they sent to me. Basically, working with the agency on a monthly basis would be like giving away 10% of my business for a period of time, which I'm not really willing to do for now...

AdSense performs great for me, and I'm afraid that due to the waterfall and delay in ad load times I might miss out on some clicks in the case of a waterfall. That's why I think about finishing the DFP setup myself. What's the best edu resources on DFP apart from dfptutorial (dot) com? I was browsing around for days and days (even found Google's certification program), but they don't really cover all the ins and outs of maximizing yields.

engine

2:37 pm on Jul 24, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Does the agency offer just the setup option? It'll probably cost more up front as the agency won't get to amortise their costs over the term.

LuckyD

10:19 am on Jul 25, 2015 (gmt 0)

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Engine, there's no way to do that, but our account manager at Google told me that he can help set it all up. However, I don't really get why he would do this, considering that I want to set up DFP for the purpose of using networks other than AdSense.

netmeg

1:19 pm on Jul 25, 2015 (gmt 0)

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However, I don't really get why he would do this, considering that I want to set up DFP for the purpose of using networks other than AdSense.

I'm sure Google finds stats and information about other networks to be quite useful. There's a reason DFP is free, and it isn't AdSense.