AdSense Stop Words and Link Units

[Lame_Wolf]

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It takes up to 48 hours for the bot to recognize your changes.

Wait a few days and the ads will stop showing. Unless you made changes to the original page.

Sheesh...
These LINK UNITS have been on there for years, and they stopped appearing a few months back.

No alterations were made in that time.

Also, I have tested this again today for many hours. I now have one page where they do not show, and an identical page (except for the URL) and they show.

There are no obvious stop words.

I need to suck some eggs. Any advice ?

[jbayabas]

Google change their Stop words constantly. That particular page(s) may have Stop words or links in your footer, header, or side bar that trigger the bot not to show Adsense. Do not be so sure that your page does not have Stop words. An innocent word like "soft toys", "sniff coke", or "street fighting" may be considered as Stop words -- it depends on the context. My best advice is to convert the texts you're unsure about to Jpeg image.

[Lame_Wolf]

Google change their Stop words constantly. That particular page(s) may have Stop words or links in your footer, header, or side bar that trigger the bot not to show Adsense.

I have ruled that out. I even removed the text and still nothing.

Do not be so sure that your page does not have Stop words. An innocent word like "soft toys", "sniff coke", or "street fighting" may be considered as Stop words -- it depends on the context. My best advice is to convert the texts you're unsure about to Jpeg image

As above.

Lets say my site is about modes of transport, and have photos for each type. All of the image pages were made in the same format.

Header 1
Photo
<ul> list with the rest of the images in that section.

Photos for trains work as expected. So do planes, bikes and helicopters. But cars no longer work.

What I did was...
Copy a car page a couple of times offline.
Removed <ul> list (which is in 3 parts. lets say, blue cars, red cars, yellow cars)

With each of the copied ones, I removed either all, or part, of the list. Then uploaded them, but called them 0.html 1.html 2.html and so on.

0.html and 2.html would show link units, even if for only 10 minutes or so. But 1.html 3.html and 4.html wouldn't.

Eventually, I was able to have a page that actually showed them, and kept them there.

Bingo! I thought I had solved it. So I copied the modified list to the original copy, but that still doesn't show link units although the dummy page does. Even now, hours later, the link units are still being displayed on the dummy page.

And the original URL does not have any stop words, nor anything like it. And the URL is the ONLY thing that is different between the one that works, and the one that doesn't.

I've even looked at the pages on my wife's craptop, and it's the same there. Ruling out any rogue files on my PC.

[jbayabas]

Here's a test I want you to do:

Change header title to jpeg
Photo
Change List of text to jpeg as well

Wait 48 hours and Adsense will continue to show. Your header title or list may have Stop words.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 12:01 am (utc) on Oct 22, 2012]

[Lame_Wolf]

Your Car page has Stop words wether you like it or not.

It hasn't. Period.

You cannot test in just a few hours, it will take up to 48 hours for the bot to crawl the new pages. 0.html, 1.html, and so on will stop showing ads after 48 hours.

Look, I know what I am talking about, and I have years of experience with Adsense. And these are LINK UNITS, not Ad units. It has nothing to do with crawling as such.

Here's a test I want you to do:

Change header title to jpeg

I have already tried it without a h1 - same thing.


Photo

Change List of text to jpeg as well

Already tried that. Even removed it altogether. Fails to show Link Units for the original pages.

Wait 48 hours and Adsense will continue to show. Your header title or list may have Stop words.

No need.

There was one thing that I thought MAY be doing it. I thought it may have mixed up (similar to) "sitting face on" with "sitting on face" but that didn't resolve it either.

[edited by: Lame_Wolf at 11:43 pm (utc) on Oct 21, 2012]

[jbayabas]

Aha! Link units will not show in all pages. If the page in question does not have relevant keywords, the link units will not show.

I have years of experience as well. I've been in your situation many times.

[Lame_Wolf]

Aha! Link units will not show in all pages. If the page in question does not have relevant keywords, the link units will not show

1: They have showed before.
2: They show on similar pages with similar text.
3: I don't care if they are relevant or not. That is not the point. The fact that they are not showing at all is the point.
3a: How does google know what is relevant or not, esp if there are different categories.
4: That doesn't explain why the dummy page is still showing them. (with the H1, and full list.) ... and there isn't a stop word in the URL either.

I went to a site today that had the word piss, and was happy to display adverts. And another (premium site) had the f word in full and showed adverts.
Yes, they were ad units rather than link units, but there was enough info/text on the page to produce link units no matter what the subject matter is.

[jbayabas]

1: They have showed before. 
---Google changes the Stop words constantly. The word "shirtless" was good 3 years ago. Last year, it was considered Stop word. Then this year, safe word again.

2: They show on similar pages with similar text. 
--Some pages take awhile to be indexed. Wait 48 hours and ALL your test pages will stop showing link units.


3: I don't care if they are relevant or not. That is not the point. The fact that they are not showing at all is the point. 
---You probably dont have enough content on the page or google has a problem targeting your  keywords. The keywords "Polaroid" may be relevant a month ago, but today no advertisers may bid on that keyword thus link unit stop showing on your page.


3a: How does google know what is relevant or not, esp if there are different categories. 
--Same as answer 3.


4: That doesn't explain why the dummy page is still showing them. (with the H1, and full list.) ... and there isn't a stop word in the URL either.
-- The dummy page can't be accessed by other visitors. Link it to your site and you will see link units will stop to display within 48 hours.

I went to a site today that had the word piss, and was happy to display adverts. And another (premium site) had the f word in full and showed adverts. 
--piss is not a Stop word
--fuck used as one word is not a stop word. "fck her pu***" is. It depends on the context.

Yes, they were ad units rather than link units, but there was enough info/text on the page to produce link units no matter what the subject matter is. 
--Ad units and Link units have different set of rules. You can preview your adsense using the tool "adsense sandbox". Google it. You probably know that already.