Forum Moderators: martinibuster

Message Too Old, No Replies

How good does a site have to be?

         

Jon12345

7:45 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



A friend new to the internet and PPC has recently asked me a very good question. How good does a site have to be before Google will accept them onto the Adsense/Adwords program?

Is a simple, clean 5 page site good enough? Or are there more stringent demands nowadays?

sem4u

7:48 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Put it this way I have seen some very poor sites out there.... (and of course some very good ones).

top5jamaica

8:06 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



why not put it up to 15 or 20 quality pages just to be on the safe side?

Marketing Guy

8:08 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Keep in mind many of the poor ones may just be poor cousins of the site the person used to get accepted to the Adsense programme.

Off the top of my head I would say that if a site can get listed in DMOZ, then Google would probably accept it for Adsense. If anything, DMOZ probably has more stringent standards (but Google review sites faster! ;)).

I should clarify I don't mean that DMOZ listing = Adsense acceptance.

I am referring more to the type / quality / standard / etc of site DMOZ allow to the directory is presumeably around the same standards Adsense have.

Not much help really, but maybe give your friend somewhere to start.

ADDED: as a reference, the site I was accepted to Adsense with initially had around 100 static pages of content and a forum with around 1000 members and 3.5k posts - receiving (at the time) around 20,000 unique visits per month, a few hundred inbound links and PR6.

I doubt traffic / PR is a factor and I've seen sites with less content than I had get accepted (and they didn't have much original content).

Scott

alpski

8:27 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I got accepted with originally 5 pages of content. 100 Uniques a month.

But, I grew, and now, I have 300 pages and 5,000 uniques.

Jon12345

9:33 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



My friend wants to create a new site and use Adwords to drive traffic there. Are you saying that because the site has no inbound links, that it might not be accepted?

alpski

9:56 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I don't think there are any inbound links or traffic requirements for a website to be accepted into the google adsense programn.

As long as your site does not violate the Adsense polices, its got a good chance of being accepted.

But, theres no harm in trying, whats the worst google could say?......

Marketing Guy

10:12 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



My friend wants to create a new site and use Adwords to drive traffic there. Are you saying that because the site has no inbound links, that it might not be accepted?

No, not saying that at all. I was talking about Adsense (publishing adverts on your site and the criteria for acceptance into the programme).

I don't think traffic is a factor at all - I just mentioned it to give you an idea of the size, age, etc of my site.

An Adwords account (where you pay to advertise your site via Google and drive traffic to it) can be started up by anyone (AFAIK). And no, traffic / links doesn't matter.

If your friend wants to pay to drive traffic to his site, then there is no real standard his site needs to meet (well, I guess certain subject areas would be out of bounds, etc). Use [u]Adwords[/u] for this.

If he wants to make money from his site, then [u]Adsense[/u] is the programme for him. But in order to be accepted to the programme, his site needs to meet certain criteria (click here for programme policies [google.com]).

Scott

hooloovoo22

10:23 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I kind of disagree with everybody here.

A site with 5 pages of content trying to get accepted into adsense, that is not generating any traffic on its own, and wants to drive traffic there by adwords....hmmm

sites made for adsense are discouraged/disregarded. I hope there is a different monetization strategy or at least goal here, otherwise I really don't see it being accepted. I wish your "friend" luck though. I would suggest if you have other sites that are more established, get in through those first and then try it out on your new site.

It's a different topic entirely...but playing adwords/adsense margins is not for the weak of heart.

Jon12345

10:23 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



If Google turns him down for Adsense, does that mean he can't get back in? Or is it difficult and much slower for him to get back in?

i.e. is there a benefit in trying to get it right first time?

My concern for his site is that it is only 5 pages.

europeforvisitors

11:49 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)



Unless the site has a reasonable amount of traffic, why bother applying? Income will likely be minuscule to non-existent. Build the site and an audience, then apply for AdSense.

Jon12345

12:00 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



You can buy traffic.

Marketing Guy

1:25 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Maybe, but for someone just starting out it isn't going to generate profit.

I guess a fairly smart / experienced SEO could make a profitable site using Adwords to drive traffic in (or at least to supplement natural traffic), and Adsense to make income. But could a web newbie?

Like Europe said, Adsense isn't going to make much if you have low traffic.

zipit

1:36 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



That makes little sense. You want advertising on the site as you are building traffic and visitors.

I built a one page site, that has an internet tool and some basic information on it. Google approved it within 24 hours. How many pages doesn't really matter, it's the content and overall aspect of the site.

It had no traffic. It had no links to it. It was a brand new domain.

Today, that is a different story. It has many more pages, and a lot more traffic. While in the beginning it didn't make but a few buck per day, now it's a lot more.

heli

4:24 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



A person I know got accepted with a one page site, with perhaps a page of content.

bobothecat

5:07 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)



Quality versus Quantity would probably be a good rule to follow... Adsense - a fair amount of traffic doesn't hurt.