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Wifi Hotspots sharing the same IP WARNING

Use a wifi hotspot to check your account? CAUTION

         

Palehorse

2:03 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is well known it seems, that google logs our IP as we check our account. It also seems that from then on that IP is considered a computer you control.

I recently discovered that one MAJOR truckstop chain somehow uses the SAME IP at every one of their truckstops across america.

You see where this is leading?

If you stop at a wifi hotspot and check your account, you could be bringing disaster on yourself.

Recently, my Wife and I purchased an RV and were thinking about becoming full timers and doing my net work on the road. My preliminary research turned up this possible problem. No real experiance with it, because it is not something that happened, just contemplating some possible dangers.

The solution is to run xp pro and use the remote desktop feature to log in via laptop on the road. It is what I intend to do. (I am sure there must be better solutions).

Anyway, just thought I might:

A. Alert you folks to a possible danger.
B. Find out if this fear is unfounded.
C. Hopefully start a good thread. ;)

Thanks

europeforvisitors

2:14 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)



If you stop at a wifi hotspot and check your account, you could be bringing disaster on yourself.

Don't most people with 24/7 broadband connections check their accounts from the same IP address all the time?

hyperkik

2:28 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I believe Palehorse is suggesting that other people at the truck stops might use the same IP to click the webmaster's ads, and Google might confuse that with the webmaster clicking his own links.

I expect, though, that Google is pretty good at distinguishing shared fixed IP's from those used by individual surfers.

Palehorse

2:49 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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believe Palehorse is suggesting that other people at the truck stops might use the same IP to click the webmaster's ads, and Google might confuse that with the webmaster clicking his own links.

You hit the nail on the head. Every trucker would look like you.

I personally would not gamble on if they account for that or not, I imagine it might even be rare.

Anyone from google reading that might know? Doesn't matter too much to me since I will be using remote desktop.

NickCoons

3:23 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Palehorse,

<The solution is to run xp pro and use the remote desktop feature to log in via laptop on the road. It is what I intend to do. (I am sure there must be better solutions).>

Yes.. you could use VNC instead of Remote Desktop. Then it doesn't matter what version of Windows you're running. In fact, you could also be running Mac or Linux.

You could use a proxy, either one that's publically available (but then you run the same risk, as someone else using that proxy could click on one of your ads), or you could use a proxy running through your computer at home. The latter would have the same effect as using VNC or Remote Desktop (all of your logins would come from your home IP), except that it would run significantly faster.

Broadway

4:23 am on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think this thread provides some solutions:
[webmasterworld.com...]

JuniorOptimizer

7:02 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm impressed by the image of two Mobile SEOs wielding an RV across America. :)

Palehorse

7:26 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm impressed by the image of two Mobile SEOs wielding an RV across America.

Thank you :)

This line of work actually lends itself to this much better then anything else, in fact other than being retired, I really don't see what else you could do and be mobile.

Palehorse

7:31 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think this thread provides some solutions:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Good thread, but does not really address the issue or possible danger of the same ip across america.

I like the proxy idea, good suggestion, thank you. It is faster. The remote access idea was a quick and dirty solution because I run xp pro on the main home comp anyway, so nothing (much hardly) to set up.

Nikke

7:50 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Guys. We know that Google will do IP tracing, but we also know (and can see in our systems) that we have loads of Google cookies stored. Google knows which computer was logged in and when. And they will use these values.

I just checked and I have 18 Google cookies on my system. Several associated and used by Adsense. Some for my account, others for AdWords conversions, AdSense clicks (I do still click ads that interest me on other sites.)

Google's cookies are accessed when people visit your site, see your ads, click your ads. And all these are used for detecting bad clicks. Not the IP address only. They couldn't be that crude after spreading all those cookies around first.

Now, if you start telling all the truckers to start clicking your ads right after you accessed your account, maybe it would raise a flag, or if you start clicking your ads from a machine you log in to Adsense from, just minutes after...

Jon12345

10:33 am on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you think it would be safe using a dial up account if you used the same PC all the time? i.e. your laptop and a dial up account. Would Googles system look at your PC and see that although you are using a different (dynamic) IP address each time - thus raising one flag - you are at least using the same PC and avoiding a double red flag.

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