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Adsense not making sense

         

ebizdude

7:52 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Folks see this
Tuesday, November 23, 2004
3,503 views
81 clicks
2.3% CTr
$8.39 My earning...

Folks 81 CLICKS and earning is a mere $8.39

Also teh site is dynamic... but the 80% major earning is from a few static pages.
I feel is CTR is fine.
the probloem is content. Maybe a few power phrases and words related to my content can do the magic?
the site is related to writing and poetry

Your suggestions..

Jenstar

7:59 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could just be in a niche area with low inventory and/or low bids.

If you are having targeting problems on your dynamic pages, you might want to work that out - it could make a huge difference to your earnings if you are able to display AdSense on the rest of the pages.

You could also test with placement, ad unit sizes, colors/borders, proximity, etc to increase your CTR. Publishers can make a lot of money, even at only ten cents per click, if they have enough of those clicks.

Powdork

8:00 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Your suggestions..
I suggest you read the terms you agreed to when signing up for adsense. Specifically the part about not sharing your statistics.;)
Anyway, my guess is that poetry is not a lucrative field. I would have guessed it prior to seeing your stats.
Come up with some poems about mortgage rates, liability claims, and of course, viagra. :)

wildfiction

8:03 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for that reminder PowDork. Is there a web page that explains these calculations in more detail? Or a thread around here?

newads

8:21 am on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Extract Sense from AdSense without Non-sense.

That is key for success

novice

12:51 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Come up with some poems about mortgage rates, liability claims, and of course, viagra. :)"

Powdork how's this,

High mortgage rates make me red,
Viagra is blue,
Liability Claims are sweet,
and Weight Loss is too.

julinho

1:35 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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High mortgage rates make me red,
Viagra is blue,
Liability Claims are sweet,
and Weight Loss is too.

LOL.
Now, if you could include that "M" word everyone keeps talking about...

Powdork

3:04 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it rhymes with Teoma.

ebizdude

4:12 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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High mortgage rates make me red,
Viagra is blue,
Liability Claims are sweet,
and Weight Loss is too.

hey thats sounds cool

Great Idea....
lol

I love this thread

novice

4:19 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ebizdude

I am sure those are not your actual stats, that you posted, because that would violate AdSense TOS. But just to be safe I would delete the stats. If you are unable to delete them ask a mod or an admin if they can do it for you.

Powdork

4:32 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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need new sites on mesothelioma
won't find them on Google
try teoma

trillianjedi

4:40 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Pure genius Powdork, pure genius.

TJ

Fairla

5:53 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am having a similar problem. I get much better targeted ads than I used to, so my click rate has gone up, but the higher it goes, the lower my payout. I used to get occasional high-paying clicks (not huge, but more than mere pennies); now I get nothing but an average of three, four, or five cents per click every day, no matter what.

When I yank most of the ads from the site so that I only get a few clicks a day, my pay rate jumps up to about 10 or 15 cents per click.

It's obvious Google has decided to average out my earnings and keep me to a very low payout no matter how well I'm doing. I feel this is not fair so I've pretty much stopped using Adsense on the site. Every once in a while I try again for a day or two but I get the same thing. The payout I can get at Fastclick for those same impressions -- both CPC and CPM -- is much better than Google's currently offering me.

I guess Google's saying it doesn't need me, and I sure don't need Google at these teensy pay rates, but it's a pity when I'm finally getting those well-targeted Adsense ads and clicks I always wanted.

wildfiction

6:34 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Fairla: What type of web site do you have? What's the topic?

bts111

10:34 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Change your ad format.

It can be the difference between baked beans and porterhouse steak.

Macro

11:43 am on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>It's obvious Google has decided to average out my earnings and keep me to a very low payout no matter how well I'm doing.

That's not obvious at all. You have not accounted for other variables like advertiser spending etc. Over the last year I have increased my Adsense income to over 10x what it was in the early days. That was by testing different ad formats/colours/sizes, by broadening the subjects I've written articles on (to attract a wider range of advertisers), to making a small increase in the number of impressions by improving traffic to my site.

So, yes, traffic has gone up by 2x and earnings have gone up by 10x. Conspiracy theories are nice but they create a mind block that prevents you earning more money.

Vlad

4:38 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have to agree with Macro, when I first started with adsense I was only making peanuts. Almost a year later I'm making as much as 50% of my day job all due to constant testing and trying. Part of my success is of course hanging out here on WW. My hat goes off to Brett, Jenstar and all the wonderful members here. ;)

On the same note, Happy ThanksGiving everyone!

ronin

5:06 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I once had a friend called Mihalis,
He swore by the power of Cialis,
But once in Niagara,
He took six with Viagra,
And now his trouser bulge is enormous.

I'll stop procrastinating and go and do some work, shall I? >;->

wildfiction

5:12 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm new to this so still trying to work it all out. I take it that ads relating to cialis and viagra have a what?
High CTR?
High pay per click?

Macro

5:13 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nice one, ronin :)

Vlad

5:41 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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lol ronin! This is so funny. Lets start a game then, I start, and you guys continue, must use money keywords!

- I took out a loan
to buy me a home

The process was quick...

Macro

6:03 pm on Nov 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey, guys, calm down, calm down. This isn't poetry really. It may appear we are taking the P out of a relatively new webmaster. S/he may be quite serious about poetry.

So put all your pills away :)

oops, I almost sound like a mod!

Fairla

3:13 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wildfiction, I've got a history site, so I don't expect huge payouts. But I have one page that advertises jewelry and it's always done well with Adsense. Now, suddenly, it too only gets a few pennies per click.

Basically what I am seeing is that I now earn pretty much the same amount of money each day no matter how many clicks I send. On days when I send more clicks, my average pay per click drops so I don't earn much more than I did sending fewer clicks.

I've belonged to AdSense long enough that I know I should be earning more than this -- I'm just no longer getting a fair share of whatever Google earns from my site. It is frustrating. Again, I'm sure Google doesn't need me or it would treat me better, but Google should not assume I need these few pennies from Adsense -- because they're not enough to be worth anything to me, and I'm just sending those impressions elsewhere now.

(Macro, I understand what you're saying and I'm sure there is truth to it, but my traffic is very good and I'm getting a decent number of clicks. I've done different ad sizes and colors, and have determined which works best with my site. Traffic and click-through ratio is not the problem; earnings-per-click is.)

[edited by: Fairla at 3:18 am (utc) on Nov. 26, 2004]

alika

3:18 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We are all in this as business. If Adsense works for us, and continues to work for us, then we use it. But if it does not or its returns to us are shrinking to levels we are no longer comfortable, then the best decision is to find alternatives that would give us better returns. Dump Adsense if we think that other programs or revenue models would work better for our sites.

Fairla

3:24 am on Nov 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Alika, yes, you're right. I love the idea of Adsense though -- perfectly targeted text ads -- and would love to be able to use Adsense more. Fortunately I do have alternatives. and I'm using them.

ebizdude

7:18 am on Nov 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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and may i ask what are the ALTERNATIVES u talk about

longen

7:43 am on Nov 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> $8.39 My earning...

Thats over £240 per month - why not reinvest it in your site - pay some of those writers to produce good content.