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Does one Smart Priced site affects an entire account?

         

rlopes

4:17 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I've read that only one Smart Priced site will affect an entire Adsense account.

Do you think it's true?

netmeg

4:18 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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No.

SmallP

4:29 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Yes.

gmb21

4:41 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Everything else in Adsense is on a per account basis (e.g. filtering), so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true. Also, ASA refused to answer this question when asked outright...

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ThatsBoBo

6:39 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Maybe.

rlopes

6:59 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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This post is really old, but it's the best info I've found up to now.
It's also to remember us how long ago the "Do no evil" motto has been forgotten.

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HuskyPup

7:38 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)



No...today I've had USD 0.01 clicks and USD 5.00 clicks.

explorador

8:14 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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The text from the links is old (2005), but the timeframe mentioned tied to fluctuations make sense to me.

koan

11:20 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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It's an old unanswered question but I believe it is account wide based on my observations, otherwise they would simply answer clearly instead of being purposely vague. Does your silly hobby site affect the earning of your main professional site? Unfortunately I would say yes. It's illogical, but probably more based on technological restrictions rather than policy, hence the vagueness.

rlopes

11:36 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@koan
I doubt a company Google would have such technical limitation. I think they DO smart price the whole account, and for other reasons than that.

DaStarBuG

11:43 pm on May 27, 2011 (gmt 0)

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One member of my forum, who worked in the industry for 10 years and has been involved at an algorithmic and technical level on smart pricing once said:


Adsense, on the other hand, most likely smart-prices by the most granular level with statistically significant data available. So, I imagine they have a base rate for an entire Adsense account, then by domain, then by individual ad placement or page / size. All this would be split by geographical regions as well. So, if you change your ad placements and you see increased clicks and earnings for a few days (or longer / shorter depending on volume) and then see click remain consistent but earnings drop (a PPC drop), you are most likely being smart priced.


and further more:


First thing to understand is that traffic from different sources (publishers, websites, etc) converts for advertisers at different levels. (Conversion Rate or CVR).

So, to solve this problem, ad network "smart-price" which is a way of leveling out the amount an advertisers pays for clicks of varying quality.
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Why do they do this? Simple. If they didn't smart price traffic sources that covert at a rate less than average, the advertiser would lower their bid to compensate. In the above example, assuming that both publishers had the same volume, the advertiser would lower their bid to $.75 to maintain their eCPA at $20. This would cause publisher A's earning to decrease even through their traffic converts better and publisher A would then be better off going to another ad network that didn't have Publisher B in it, causing lower bids.

So, all traffic is "smart priced" to either the network average or the "best of network". This keeps upward price-pressure in the market and helps the network maintain high ppcs and high converting traffic sources.


maybe this helps

netmeg

2:20 am on May 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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(which is pretty much what I've been saying for years)

HuskyPup

11:05 am on May 28, 2011 (gmt 0)



@DaStarBuG - Yep

Even more simply it depends in which country the clicker is situated and the type of advert.

A local clicker clicking on a local ad pays higher than a far away clicker on a country/region targetted ad that the advertiser has no possibility of supplying.

This happpens in my industry specifically owing to my products' weight and high transportation costs.