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r5_turbo_2

2:46 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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If you have 1000 page views. you have the max 3 ads. That would be 3000 ad impressions? Can you guys enlighten me please.


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BillyS

3:20 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I normally look at page impressions, not ad impressions.

To answer your question, if all ads are showing, then yes 1,000 page views with 3 ads each means 3,000 ad impressions.

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r5_turbo_2

3:32 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the welcome.

Thanks for the help..

I have moved my forums (web site) to a newer software and split the site into two domains. Previous to that we had 1 google ad with 250,000 google ad impression's on our single domain per day.

We have more people visitoring our site now, I have added more google ads 3 per page then before. Google ad impression's remains very low 80,000 combined on both sites. . I have no idea what happened or how to fix it.

ken_b

4:15 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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you have the max 3 ads.

3 ads, or 3 ad blocks?

Depending on the ad block size, 3 ad blocks could display as many as 15 ads for page view.
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r5_turbo_2

4:54 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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3 google ads 300x250 on the opening page. 15 ads how dose that work?

ken_b

5:14 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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A 160x600 ad block can display up to 5 ads, so if you had three 160x600 ad blocks on a page you ciould see up to 15 individual ads.

A 300x250 ad block can display up to 4 ads, so three 300x250 ad blocks could result in showing up to 12 individual ads.

3 google ads 300x250

You still are not being clear here. Ads and ad blocks are two different things. Do you have three 300x250 ad blocks on each page?
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r5_turbo_2

7:07 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I think you are talking about text ads. ?

I need to find some one to help me check my ads and how I set adsense up.

Being a forum members do not click many of the ads. I gave up on text ads people don't click any of these ads at all. We use image ads from google. We have been getting paid per 1000 views.

incrediBILL

8:58 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I gave up on text ads people don't click any of these ads at all. We use image ads from google. We have been getting paid per 1000 views.


I don't mean to be judgmental here, but you do see that's practically fraud don't you?

Forums hardly convert in the first place unless you put very targeted material that is relevant to the forum, and visitors/guests are more likely to click than returning members, which probably make up the bulk of your traffic.

Since you weren't earning with text ads, it meant people weren't clicking, therefore there's no interest in the ads. Replacing those with image ads merely to get the money for the impressions, especially when you know there's no clicking, is pretty much defrauding the CPM advertisers out of their money.

If Google measures the ROI for those image ads and sees the advertiser is getting no value for those impressions it's possible you'll stop seeing ads someday soon and/or get booted from AdSense for irrelevant traffic.

Not saying it'll happen, but it's a possibility, so if you value your AdSense account on other sites you may operate, I would consider finding new ways to monetize that forum ASAP.

r5_turbo_2

10:24 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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So I guess anyone receiving payment for any type of ad views are defrauding google. What a bunch of crock. The hole point of posting in these forums is to get better at running my site by asking questions and improving how its run. I might ask some stupid questions but I don't mind embracing my self so that I can learn from more experienced users. You are not one that I want any advice from unless you can help. Thanks

Out of 80,000 ad impressions we have 120 clicks per day. I should have not used at all. :/

incrediBILL

11:40 am on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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You are not one that I want any advice from unless you can help


Whoa dude.

We've seen people that claimed their accounts were banned for tons of traffic and no clicks, I didn't make it up, I'm just trying to show you how the algo might see it.

Lots of CPM image impressions and very few clicks isn't defrauding Google, it's the advertisers money you're taking without giving them any ROI, and Google tries to protect the advertiser.

If you get 80K impressions and only 120 clicks, I'd try something other than AdSense. Depending on your niche, some advertisers might be willing to buy that ad space for a flat fee for branding. Besides, it's a forum, they don't convert well, hardly ever with few exceptions which is why getting sponsors is often the better paying way to go

[edited by: incrediBILL at 4:24 pm (utc) on Feb 17, 2011]

Rockyou

1:03 pm on Feb 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

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r5_turbo_2, If you are getting traffic from people making money above $75K per year, then interest based ads can get you better ecpm. Just keep all Google default setting in your adsense account, Adsense will automatically increase your earnings.

r5_turbo_2

9:43 am on Feb 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Is there a person that can review my adsense account and help me optimise my ads on these forums? I think by finding out what I am doing wrong would be a good start. Thanks for the input and help.

netmeg

7:30 pm on Feb 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

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No.

LifeinAsia

7:41 pm on Feb 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Replacing those with image ads merely to get the money for the impressions, especially when you know there's no clicking, is pretty much defrauding the CPM advertisers out of their money.

Not necessarily.

Companies running CPM ads are paying for impressions, not for clicks. Some may not even care if they get clicks or not. In many cases, the advertisers may be using image ads for branding purposes. They don't care if a user clicks on an ad right away- they would rather reinforce the brand name.

incrediBILL

8:55 pm on Feb 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@r5_turbo_2: We have an excellent site review board [webmasterworld.com] that will typically get your site reviewed by some industry experts.


@LifeinAsia: Not sure AdSense will see it that way, but in principle I agree with you regarding branding.

FWIW, I have a lot of direct advertisers on my site and they all ask "what's the average CTR" so that's why I'm not a big fan of the branding theory in general unless it's more of a sponsorship where they buy the space by the month or year, not CPM rates for banner rotation.

Edge

11:38 pm on Feb 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Ad page Impressions = (physical page views - software robots - ad blocker visitors - java script turned offers - slow ad loads clicked forward person - who knows what else)

246dino

2:49 am on Feb 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

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incrediBILL

Thanks Just joined. I had to change my sn. :(

246dino

2:52 am on Feb 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed when I use double click to serve my ads on my forums the impression number changes. It go's up.