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SmokeyBear

5:26 pm on Dec 20, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I wrote a little code to test this recently and found theres alot more people blocking my ads than i thought.

but i found a simple way around it.

I will explain the code so you can make your own.

by inserting a small iframe ad on your site to a known advertiser you can check if the ad has loaded by using the event handler "onload"

first we will assume everyone has a blocker on

var adblocker="on";

we will then change that variable if the target ad loads

<iframe src=http://adsense onload="turnoff();">

function turnoff(){
adblocker = "off";
}
we set a timer that will function only if ad has not loaded

setTimeout ( "test()", 5000 );

function test(){
if(adblocker == "on"){

alert('Your browser has blocked important parts of this page, please reload the page and turn off any ad blocking software');

}
}

Frank_Rizzo

1:57 pm on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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It's not so much the intrusiveness of ads - such as popups, growls etc. The real problem is tracking.

End users do not want to be tracked, labelled and targeted. The more the ad industry try to impose these techniques on users the more users will counteract it.

More and more firefox add-ons are being created to prevent tracking. More and more domains are being 127'd. I think the winhelp2002 hosts file current has over 16000 entries.

Run ads fairly, observe the law with regards to tracking and user privacy and users will not rebel so much.

incrediBILL

6:39 pm on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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It's not so much the intrusiveness of ads - such as popups, growls etc. The real problem is tracking.


I don't care about tracking, but I care about popups.

Don't mess up my desktop, I don't like cleaning up messes made by greedy idiots.

If you do mess up my desktop with popups, at least be smart enough not to tell me about it in person if you value your teeth.

JCKline

6:59 pm on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I had tested a javascript alert to people blocking ads and found that my sites bounce rate increased too much. Being a webmaster related site, this was a bad isea, and digital sales decreased as a result. I removed it and things improved. The fact is that thoose who block ads don't click anyway, so it didn't seem to make a difference with my adsense earnings, but did with on site purchases. Look at it this way, visitors will just move on rather then disable AdBlocker and re-open Firefox (for instance)...would you? I wouldn't.

Frank_Rizzo

9:31 pm on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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iBill as a webmaster do you care about your pages being copied and processed by IPs in russia and china? That is what was and still is happening in the UK.

Whatever pages users are browsing, whatever users are typing - including private areas such as password only message board or .htaccess protected content - is being intercepted, read, and processed.

If you are not concerned about you as an individual being tracked that's your choice. But surely you are concerned that your webpages are being processed off the backs of legitimate users all in the name of .... advertising.

Works both ways guys. You allow the ad companies to profile your users so that you get snazzy charts. But at the same time ad companies are reading and processing all your data. You may think you have visitors over a barrel but the ad companies have you over a bigger barrel.

incrediBILL

10:17 pm on Dec 23, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I care, it's just off topic for this thread, which is about ad blocking. start a new thread for a new topic.

bumpski

12:08 pm on Dec 26, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Norton Ad Blocking:
All sorts of things - sometimes including site's own images and internal navigation in my experience.


This sometimes is where adblockers like Norton may just go too far. For years Norton would filter:
"Accept-Encoding gzip,deflate" (Piatkow is this still true?) in the users request header and that would eliminate the compression field from the request. Of course if your server does normally GZIP, this hack by Norton would triple the bandwidth load on your servers.
So not only are you losing money on the blocked ads, your hosting costs are actually increased as well.

piatkow

5:45 pm on Dec 27, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Piatkow is this still true?

No idea, I no longer use Norton.

Scurramunga

3:12 am on Dec 28, 2010 (gmt 0)

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I have seen a couple of different script types.

1. Where a message pleads with the visitor to turn adblocker off: Can't see too many people paying attention to these pleas.


2. Where the content is hidden until such time as the ad blocker is turned off: The visitor must decide just how much your content is worth viewing v's back clicking away from your site.

If there was a script which simply blocked ad blockers I would implement it tomorrow, especially considering that I previously earned good revenue by displaying a couple of low key text ads.

frontpage

3:15 pm on Dec 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

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Here is my perspective. I use AdblockPlus and Noscript.

When I encounter webpages that use these methods, I simply go elsewhere.

However, when I do find sites that are helpful and relevant, I usually unblock them and support them.

PS. Our corp, has adblockers on by default to prevent malicious webmasters from inserting malware and other crap.

Sorry, the level of trust to allow javascript by default is no longer there.
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