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[Rockyou]

I got blocked by google on two pages stating someone has filed a DMCA against my site.How can i know who has filed DMCA, what was the exact content giving some one problem. Can anyone help on this.How can i counter this?

[Lame_Wolf]

How can i counter this?

By removing the copyrighted content, perhaps ?

[cien]

The feared email. That sucks. Do you have copyrighted content on your site? Autoblogs? When DMCAs are involved that's a serious deal so it is unlikely that Google will re-enable your account. Follow the instructions on the email from Google.

[edited by: cien at 3:45 pm (utc) on Oct 23, 2010]

[netmeg]

Look and see if it's on Chilling Effects. Google says they send DMCAs there, but the personal information gets removed, so I don't know what you might find.

[Rockyou]

well only two pages are disabled not full account. Netmeg what is chilling effects? Well i think its 5% of page which may be causing problem might have copied nothing serious offence.Pages are working fine with Bing & Yahoo search. How to get out of DMCA is it automatic after removing disputed content? Thanks in advance.

[miozio]

It's not easy to file a DMCA. What was on those pages?

[netmeg]

Google chilling effects.

Also you should familiarize yourself with Google's policy, so you know what was done.

[google.com...]

[Rockyou]

Well its page related to travel, may be pictures mighty have caused the problem or part of content.

[Rockyou]

duplicate copy

[miozio]

And you have not recieved any notifications? They straight filed it to Google? It's so strange. I would only be thinking that you wouldn't reply to the people whose content you took and they got mad as you probably became their competition.. I would do it too.
I send emails to the sites who copy my content and they usually remove it. The last time it was worse and i submitted a spam report, the site went off the SERPs..

[Rockyou]

well i don't publish email address on the site, They might have used whois record to send mail, I am under private registeration and i choose not to recieved any email from anyone.I have changed the setting now. My question is simple miozio can i get back to serp for this pages by removing all disputed content or its permanent ban on those pages.Have you heard anyone getting out of DMCA.

[miozio]

I personally doubt it is possible, you are lucky the whole site is ok! Try responding to Google saying that you removed the copywrighted contend from those pages and don't forget to add value... In this case it's not an automated removal. DMCA is a very serious offence.

[cien]

I would not contact Google at all. You are lucky to have your adsense account active. The less contact you have with them the better in my opinion. If they dig into your profile, they might shut down your adsense account. That's what I'd do anyway.

[Rockyou]

Thanks Miozio, cien, Netmeg, Lame_wolf, First thing i don't know what is my offence. What will i write to google. Further i found many url using my content number in thousands. If for small reasons people start filing DMCA. I don't know what will happen to Google?

[Lame_Wolf]

Rockyou,
If someone has filed a DMCA against you, then, unless you have the rights to the copyrigthed material, cannot counter file a DMCA against it.

Now, if they have told you it is two pages, then it should be easy to find out what/where the problem lies.

I received a DMCA a few months back. Scared the s**t out of me at first because I thought it was in the Public Domain. We ended up as friends and are now working on projects together. So all is not lost with these things. Plus I got some IBL's out of it :)

Personally, I wouldn't take the advice of not contacting Google over it. They probably know more about your site than you do. If it was Google that sent you the DMCA, then you deal with them to resolve it.

[Rockyou]

Thanks for the good advice Lame_wolf, I am thinking of removing those two pages in question and end this DMCA thing.It will take 15 days for me to remove links from all my internal pages.Till then i will keeping it, can't compromise on user experience. These pages are not even generating 1% of my total revenue so why bother about it so much.

[Lame_Wolf]

No problem, Rockyou. I've raised loads of DMCA's in the past. I'd rather write to the uploader of the content, but in some instances you cannot contact the "uploader" in person, and have to (forced) to raise a DMCA, otherwise they (site owners) will not remove them.

I will be raising one with a "Christian" site. They have basically made the whole site using my graphics and have ignored all polite requests to remove them. A DMCA will be my next step against this religous site.

15 days to remove them ? How come ?

[Rockyou]

Well i don't know what is causing problem, so removing page itself, but those pages have many internal links. So i need to go hundreds of pages and edit them. So not removing those pages in question till all internal links are removed. so it will take time doing all this monkey business and i have other works to be done also. So it will take me 15 days for me.

[Rockyou]

Lame_ wolf do you send warning to email address in whois if there is no email address on site?

[BillyS]

Rockyou -

I've filed DMCAs myself. There is a process you're supposed to go through. Visit Chilling Effects, they talk about the process.

The first step usually involves contacting the site owner and asking them to take down the content in question (a cease and desist letter). You can also ask the web site host to take down the site until agreement is reached. That's an even bigger worry than Google's index. It's a very big hammer against the offending site.

The first step I usually take is an informal email stating that I will be sending a letter. I then mail a letter (return receipt) so I know they got the message. The letter is supposed to identify the exact problem. It also tells the site owner that they have the right to dispute the finding.

I've never had a site taken down because usually the owner removes the content right away.

[explorador]

I disagree. I had this sort of problems in the past and sometimes a cease and desist letter brings the "ok sorry" and then leave the whole copied material there to only add a small text credit (without a link).

I believe there are two kinds of scrapers, the ones you can afford to be nice with and those where you have to hit them hard. In some cases nice letters only gives them time to remove infringing content and get away with some sort of "I gave you credit" but still copy your stuff on weekly basis.

It's been said before (hard to make it happen I know) but one should be clear of what is published on the site, where it comes from and if you buy content or pay for it, be careful to take a deep look at it. I know is a lot of work but it is worse to have those kind of doubts and then finding yourself forced to review your whole site.

[Rockyou]

Billy do you send warning to email address in whois if there is no email address on site before going for take down. What kind of offense you charge is it image, text or trademark thing. Further for you to take down at web host server, The page in question must have commited serious offence. Further in my case i have only 3% similiar content and some people have copied my same content also, At end i am not sure what is causing problem, even image which i used are very general. Nothing like it will effect anyone. May be someone has got very lucky for takedown like this.

[netmeg]

Where did you GET the content? If you didn't create it yourself, or pay for it (including the rights to use it) then you're probably at risk. Being "very general" probably isn't good enough.

[BillyS]

Billy do you send warning to email address in whois if there is no email address on site before going for take down.

Exactly right, I look at whois to find the person and / or I look for contact information on the website itself.

Further for you to take down at web host server, The page in question must have commited serious offence.

Yes, they usually have a complete page of mine on their website without my permission.

Further in my case i have only 3% similiar content and some people have copied my same content also

Just because other people do it, doesn't mean it's okay. If they're going after you, then they may be going after everyone stealing their content.

There are a number of posters here giving you good advice. It's a very simple fix, just remove the information immediately. If you're running a scraper site, then be prepared to scrap it - game over.

[explorador]

There are a number of posters here giving you good advice. It's a very simple fix, just remove the information immediately. If you're running a scraper site, then be prepared to scrap it - game over.

Nice advice. I'll add, try to establish a good relationship. Usually when I stumble upon this kind of problem I keep checking the site on a regular basis to see if they try it again.

Take a look at Lame Wolfs comment

We ended up as friends and are now working on projects together

[Lame_Wolf]

Lame_ wolf do you send warning to email address in whois if there is no email address on site?

Yes, or you can send it to the hosting provider.

In my case, they copied and pasted the whois data info and sent it to the address that is on the whois database.

They said they did that because they couldn't find any contact info on the site. There is, they just didn't look in the right place.

[Lame_Wolf]

I'll add, try to establish a good relationship. Usually when I stumble upon this kind of problem I keep checking the site on a regular basis to see if they try it again.

I agree. (and I forgot to mention, they are also going to give me free advertising on their site).

I have also had artists write to me thanking me for having their work on my site, and were honored to be on there.

A lot of it depends on HOW it is used, and of course how professional your site looks. It all helps.

[Rockyou]

Well i pay content writers for article, Further i have taken down those two pages immediately after seeing everyone suggestions. Site has got natural links from very high quality websites. Nothing scraper stuff. Anyway thanks all, problem is resolved.

[Lame_Wolf]

Well i pay content writers for article, Further i have taken down those two pages immediately after seeing everyone suggestions.

Are you saying that you paid people to write for you, and they gave you content that was copyrighted ?

[alika]

Well i pay content writers for article

Be careful when you pay writers for content. You don't know what they are giving you

Reminds me of this consultant who sent me her article for possible publication in my site. When I read the article, I thought it sounded so familiar. Then I realized what she submitted was MY article written and published in my site around 1999 -- but with her byline. She has published the article in her site as well, with her byline.

I sent the DMCA notice and the web host warned her to remove the content within 24 hours. She emailed me back to apologize and said that she simply paid a ghost writer to write the article for her and didn't realize that the writer simply stole content from others.

Funny coincidence that she sent the article to me - and to what other sites. But just to illustrate that this is not an isolated case. You need to check the articles that you are paying for