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Smart pricing update every quarter?

That's what it looks like from my stats.

         

jonathanleger

3:00 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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April-May-June

Big changes in July.

July-August-September

Big changes in October.

October-November-December

Another recalculation in January?

I'm wondering about that. It looks like Google's PR updates are moving to a quarterly update as well. Is this a trend for AdSense smart pricing or am I seeing things?

europeforvisitors

3:10 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



1) I haven't seen any obvious pattern.

2) Variations in supply and demand caused by seasonal factors, the introduction or expansion of new Google "content network" venues such as gmail, etc. would could easily mask (or be taken for) updates in smart pricing.

Web_Ox

3:21 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Where can I learn more about Smart Pricing?

Beginning October 1, my Adsense revenue has increased by 50%, but my number of daily clicks and unique visitors only increased slightly.

Is Google paying me more for my clicks?

loanuniverse

3:42 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do not see big changes associated with the end of the Qtr. I do see a trend in my site of EPC going down substantially using data from my main channel from the date that I instituted channels until a couple of days ago.

I would say that in my case EPC has gone down a good 30% or more since then. Graphing the EPC and adding a trendline is disheartening. There could be many reasons for this. It could be tweaking of the smartpricing, it could be additional websites coming online going after the same topic of mine, it could be advertisers getting turned off at the quality of some content partners. Probably a combination of all of them.

If this declining trend in EPC and the equally troublesome decline in CTR continue, I can see a future where adsense will pay out not much better than CPM in my case.

Cheeser

5:08 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Beginning October 1, my Adsense revenue has increased by 50%, but my number of daily clicks and unique visitors only increased slightly.

And beginning September 16, my AdSense revenue dropped 75%, but my daily impressions, clicks and CTR remained the same.

Is Google taking a huge chunk of the money I used to make? (Rhetorical question... answer: YES.)

It can't be explained because Google doesn't tell how much it charges for clicks. No amount of guesswork will ever reveal their "secrets". I learned on September 16 not to rely on that revenue and have since diversified to Google + two other ad networks + my own in-house. Much safer.

alika

5:38 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If there is a quarterly update of smartpricing, then we must be so lucky that we see a consistent increase quarter after quarter, month after month. Since the year started, our earnings have just been going up. Not a single month did we see a dip in revenues.

I doubt your theory.

jonathanleger

6:21 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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alika,

My theory isn't that there is a quarterly downturn in EPC, just a quarterly update in EPC. So your making more money each month does not disprove the theory.

alika

6:29 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How are you basing your quarterly update in EPC? Is it the direction of the EPC based on your own stats? What are those "big changes" that you talked about?

jonathanleger

7:57 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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alika,

My theory was based on my own stats EPC changing dramatically every 3 months on the money. But that may just be a coincidence, as not everyone has had that experience. So of course, my theory could be bunk. :)

birdstuff

12:55 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Beginning October 1, my Adsense revenue has increased by 50%, but my number of daily clicks and unique visitors only increased slightly.

Is Google paying me more for my clicks?

Mathematically that would have to be the case.

darkmage

7:26 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The best thing is to stop looking for patterns of Adsense as a whole and focus on ways you can improve your own performance. Channels, positioning, colours are just some of the ways.

There is a lot of crap here about what is 'obviously' happening, when in fact other users see completely different trends.

Adsense is a chaotic system: spikes and troughs are the norm: no two sites are alike. You cannot make blanket statements about the system. We have people who can't get more than 0.4% CTR, then there are others who worry that a CTR of 40% may get them booted.

jonathanleger: why assume that any changes would happen on the first day of the quarter (smart pricing wasn't introduced on the first day)? Also look at the data again - why exactly do you think this is smart pricing and not simple market variation?