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10 million content page views for Premium service?

         

pashenG

11:39 am on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi.

On main adsense page I read that " If your site receives more than 5 million search queries or 20 million content page views a month" but when I clicked to sign for premium service I read "If your site receives more than 5 million search queries or 10 million content page views a month, you may qualify for AdSense premium service."

It seems it's possible to have premium service with 10 million page views. Is anyone able to confirm that?

Regards.
Pashen

Jenstar

1:44 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think they did lower it to 10 million, but you'd have to confirm with them to be sure.

webmastertexas

2:55 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Jesus. 10 million page views. I can't even fathom qualifying for that...

freeflight2

3:26 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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do pp get higher payouts? what exactly are the benefits?

morpheus83

5:23 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes I have heard you get higher payouts. You can customize your ads to a greater extend.

asianguy

7:12 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)



Holy #*$!, who's site is getting 10 millions page views a month? I would be happy if i get 1 million a month. I will be rich and retired and just do internet.

Jon_King

8:39 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Common' man just send them an email and let us know what they said.

RoadRash

8:53 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do ~1.5MM a month, 10MM isnt too far off IMHO.

europeforvisitors

10:41 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)



who's site is getting 10 millions page views a month? I would be happy if i get 1 million a month. I will be rich and retired and just do internet.

Just remember that traffic isn't everything. Clickthrough rates and cost per click are likely to be lower on large news, entertainment, and portal sites than on special-interest sites in commercially valuable niches. To put it another way, THE WASHINGTON POST probably needs more traffic for a given revenue figure than might be the case with a site geared to luxury travelers, investors, or people with certain medical conditions.

webmastertexas

10:56 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just remember that traffic isn't everything

Yep, that's true, but with that kind of number you could just run banner advertising and still make a mint. But I know what you mean. Bigger companies like CNN/ABC/etc have more overhead, and 10 million means next to nothing to them. But for little guys like me, that means I'm looking for a new car tomorrow. :)

MrAnchovy

12:09 am on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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who's site is getting 10 millions page views a month? I would be happy if i get 1 million a month. I will be rich and retired and just do internet.

I generate roughly 5 million page views per month & I'm only running adsense a portion of my total pages, and consider my website income to be relatively modest.

However, to expand on the "traffic isn't everything" comments... having that many PVs does not mean automatic fed-ex club membership.

Odds are, the vast majority of visitors are daily repeat visitors (many visiting several times per day). They get used to the ads very quickly and CTR drop to what many believe are laughable numbers. Low CTR isn't automatic on high-traffic sites, but it's typical.

I've got another low-traffic site, with virtually the same page layout, but of different topic, and CTR is through the roof.

But for little guys like me, that means I'm looking for a new car tomorrow. :)

I consider myself a little guy (myself, 1 server, 3 sites)... double, or even triple my 5 million page views & you wouldn't be looking for a new car.

Don't get me wrong, lots of traffic is a good influence on earnings, however there are plenty who receive millions of PVs and have a modest AdSense check, and just the same, there are many people who get their checks fed-ex'd with merely thousands of page views.

Having that much traffic is definitely nice, as it allows you to do many things & get quick results, but it's far from being everything.

freitasm

10:35 am on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do ~1.5MM a month, 10MM isnt too far off IMHO.

My site serves around 3.5 million pages/month. 1/3 of these are RSS feeds. And only 1/2 of the remaining pages actually show an ad. Remember, there are lots of non-compliant browsers, pop-up and ad blockers, etc...

I'm pretty sure I could make my site grow another 100% in 6 months, if I had full time for it. I'm acutally moving to a SQL database for this, plus changing my scripts to .Net so I can have more flexibility.

markus007

2:37 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do 30 million pagviews a month now and they still won't really let me into the premium service. Although i got access to a few things premium members have.

morpheus83

2:57 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow 30 million page views. markus007 maybe you can try applying to overture they accept publishers with 30 million page views. It is quiet strange when adsense is ready to accept publishers at 10 mil and wont accept you with 30 mil. Can you please throw on some light as to what are the benefits a premium publisher has? Thanks in advance.

webmastertexas

3:09 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't get me wrong, lots of traffic is a good influence on earnings, however there are plenty who receive millions of PVs and have a modest AdSense check, and just the same, there are many people who get their checks fed-ex'd with merely thousands of page views.

I don't quite understand why high traffic isn't helping you guys bottom line. I currently get about 250K page views per month, and the bulk of my earnings come from banner advertising with Fastclick. I made $500 last month from Fastclick from that 250K PV. If I had over 10 million PVs, wouldn't I make over $20,000 a month? I like Google Adsense, but I don't rely on it. I think banner advertising is the way to go. It makes you money regardless of rather people click or not. Or maybe I'm missing something here? Don't you guys use banner ads, too? Or is it Adsense or nothing?

alika

3:21 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't quite understand why high traffic isn't helping you guys bottom line.

webmastertexas -- they were only talking of their Adsense bottom line, not general bottomline inclusive of banners ads, affiliates, sales, or other revenues sources. Many here have found that Adsense will not work for them, but do better with banner ads esp with CPM payouts

markus007

3:26 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well my impression of the Premium Service is there really is none. When you want in they ask you for what it is exactly that you want. Ie if you are a huge site focused on mortgages you don't want ads related to your industry. So you can pick keywords your ads will show for. Ie cell phones, credit cards etc.

MrAnchovy

3:32 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't quite understand why high traffic isn't helping you guys bottom line.
I didn't mean to imply my 4mil PVs resulted in a poor adsense income, just modest. I live solely off of my 4 million PVs, which encompasses quite a few different revenue streams.

I made $500 last month from Fastclick from that 250K PV. If I had over 10 million PVs, wouldn't I make over $20,000 a month?
Well, I was merely talking about AdSense... I have other revenue streams, but in an AdSense forum I didn't feel the need to mention them.

In all likelyhood, $500 w/ 250k != $20k w/ 10m @ AdSense.
It might, but most likely it won't. If you've built up a site that has millions of pageviews, in all likelyhood, you have a large group of repeat visitors that will grow immune to the ads. In my experience, as page views go up, so does revenue... but that revenue doesn't increase at the same rate as PVs.... that's all i was getting at in my post.

Don't you guys use banner ads, too? Or is it Adsense or nothing?
I use a lil bit of everything myself. Again, AdSense forum I didn't feel the need to mention them.

webmastertexas

5:38 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ah, sorry. I thought you guys were talking about all your revenues in total. My mistake. :)

europeforvisitors

6:41 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)



I like Google Adsense, but I don't rely on it. I think banner advertising is the way to go. It makes you money regardless of rather people click or not. Or maybe I'm missing something here?

AdSense generates a lot more revenue on my site than the banner networks ever did, probably because my editorial site deals with a commercial topic (travel). If I had a community site or an editorial site on a less easily "monetized" topic, I might find out that straight-CPM banner ads were more profitable.

For what it's worth, I do make more from my affiliate links than I do from AdSense, but Adsense is definitely worth the screen real estate. (For one thing, AdSense serves ads on subtopic pages that don't relate well to affiliate programs. That's the biggest strength of AdSense, in my opinion: It creates the opportunity to earn revenues from every page of a diverse site.)

Freedom

6:45 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Let me ask the $10 million question.

Just what in the heck do you get when you become a premium publisher?

I mean, what are the benefits? What kind of perks and extra services does it give you?

tonywny2

12:15 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They kiss your behind better :)

markus007

6:06 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I mean, what are the benefits? What kind of perks and extra services does it give you?

The biggest one is picking your own keywords/ads

morpheus83

6:32 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also customizing your ads using CSS etc so it perfectly blends with your site.

Mentat

7:29 pm on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is someone premium publisher?
Has google give any answer abour 10 000 000 or 20 000 000 ad views?