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Anyone using Tynt Tracer with AdSense?

I took Guy's recommendation...

         

dataguy

8:41 pm on Mar 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

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At Pubcon Sound Guy Kawasaki mentioned Tynt Tracer. If I even mentioned what it does it would sound like an advertisement because it is so cool and useful. I really want some input on this so if the topic is inappropriate, mods please move it to some place more appropriate, though this really is an AdSense question.

I installed the tracer script on my site in the middle of the day one day this week. By the end of the day, Google AdSense eCPM was the lowest it had ever been, about 30% lower than normal.

The next day was worse with eCPM dropping to about 50% of the norm. CTR was about average but the payout was abysmal.

Yesterday I decided to stop being mesmerized by the reporting page shown by tynt and I uninstalled the script from my web site. By the end of the day AdSense eCPM was obviously on the rise. Today things look normal again.

I know correlation does not imply causation, but it's a major coincidence. Does anyone here have any experience running tynt tracer along with AdSense?

levo

3:08 pm on Apr 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Maybe just a coincidence but the same drop happened to me too.

I have included tynt js code for half-a-day and CPC/eCPM dropped 50% instantly..

mdwong

3:58 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I'm the Product Manager at Tynt. I've recently become aware of this concern and wanted to give everyone an update on what we've found so far.

First we, in detail, went through the AdSense and the Tracer code and were not able to locate any conflicts or issues from Tracer that would change the behavior of AdSense.

Next we were able to get data from some of our Beta sites that run AdSense and Tracer and we reviewed the various AdSense stats to see if there was a correlation with the install of Tracer and a negative impact on AdSense revenue. From this review it appeared that in the periods both before and after Tracer implementation on the sites, AdSense revenue was a highly variable and volatile number. Looking at the eCPM, Revenue, etc of a site for the 3 weeks prior to implementing Tynt Tracer and the 3 weeks post implementing Tynt, on average there seemed to be little discernable movement up or down. On one site we did see a drop right after implementation that lasted about 2 days, but this was not inconsistent with other periodic drops that they had experienced prior to Tracer, and on the third day, things were again in their normal range.

At this point, the reports look to be coincidental, but we certainly aren't dismissing the question and will continue to research this.

Thanks,
Mike W

[edited by: martinibuster at 8:44 pm (utc) on May 11, 2009]
[edit reason] See TOS [webmasterworld.com]. [/edit]

jhood

9:49 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

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This looks like a spectacular application, especially for news and information sites. I have found that making any global change to my sites -- for example, adding a line of javascript to the header or footer -- causes craziness in AdSense results for a few days but, as the Tynt rep says, it returns to normal eventually.

mayest

6:40 pm on May 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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@mdwong: Thanks for signing up and posting here. Because you took the time to do that, I've signed up and installed the code. It should be interesting to see how it goes.

jhood

7:39 pm on May 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I installed Tynt right after posting yesterday and have seen no effect on AdSense earnings, traffic or anything else. It started working right away and has already built up a nice trove of data.

Very nice application -- provides a graphic illustration of top pages as well as those frequently "clipped," and, to go even further, which parts of which pages are being quoted most often.

There's lots of talk about long-tail sites, and applications like Tynt certainly illustrate the value of such pages. Some of our top pages are like the Rolling Stones -- geriatric but still topping the charts, both in terms of page views and copy/pastes.

We have a very expensive print/mail application from a company whose name begins with "Click" and the information it provides is far skimpier than Tynt's, by the way.

londrum

8:40 pm on May 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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signed up as well. seems like a legit way to generate some one way links.

i see on your site that you're taking on suggestions... i've got one.
it would be nice if you could let the user enter a few phrases for the first few words of the link text, and then rotate between them. otherwise they're all going to end up saying the same thing ("Read more: blah blah"), which is supposedly something that the mighty G frowns upon.

dataguy

11:50 pm on May 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Mike. As the OP I need to report that indeed I have proven to my satisfaction that the tynt tracer code had nothing to do with my drop in AdSense earnings. Your product is one of the coolest new products I've seen in a long time!

Lame_Wolf

12:18 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I won't be installing it, and from what I have read on them, I shall be blocking them from my sites.

mdwong

4:39 pm on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Lame_Wolf: I'd be happy to answer any questions you have to address your concerns about our product. Feel free to contact me at tracer@tynt.com.

Cheers,
Mike

Lame_Wolf

5:15 pm on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hi Mike

Thank you for responding, but I won't be adding it to my sites. Sorry.

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:31 pm (utc) on May 11, 2009]
[edit reason] See TOS [webmasterworld.com]. [/edit]

londrum

5:52 pm on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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i think you're looking at a different kind of product, lame_wolf. as far as i can see, Tynt Tracer hasn't really got anything to do with the stuff they're talking about on that page you listed. same company though.

but... having said that... i've taken Tynt Tracer off my site a few days after adding it on. my adsense earnings plummeted straight away. and i mean PLUMMETED. my earnings were down to half what they normally are. maybe it was a coincedence and maybe it wasn't, but with other people already saying the same thing i couldn't afford to take keep it on and wait it out.
shame though, because it seemed quite handy when i put it on.

Lame_Wolf

6:14 pm on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hi Londrum
Until this thread, I hadn't heard of them and had to google it. If my prior comments are incorrect, then please remove them moderator.

I still won't add it to my sites though, because "it's too new" and never jump on the bandwagon until I know things are stable, and for the good.