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Right time to quit AdSense?

         

Future

9:11 pm on Mar 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Out of bunch of sites we are running with Google Adsense Program, few of same are showing adverse effects since last couple of months.
(in terms of revenue)

There is a constant increase in traffic with quality content we are able to provide (for sites running google adsense program), however, the ECPM and CTR has been affected a lot.
(there is no measure lead to us to gauge decline in revenue from Adsense Program for our site quality and increasing traffic, we have no information if we are getting paid right amount !)

We have shifted several sites to other publishing networks since last 6 months of time (taking into consideration recession effect) these Ad publising networks (comparatively high paying then adsense) have been able to give us higher revenue or atleast what we earned equivalent in past.

It is time to MOVE completely away from Adsense or stick to them ?
If yes, Why ?
If no, Why ?

Atleast, happy with few WEBSITES running on other AD Networks doing much better then Adsense Program from Google.

Publising is bread and butter for our survival.

[edited by: Future at 9:13 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2009]

SEOPTI

5:57 pm on Mar 9, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Don't forget, if you get most of your traffic from big Google and your site gets a manual review it may end up suffering in SERPs because you use a different sponsor than adsense .. just a thought ...

Future

8:36 am on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Only since everyone became aware about Global Recession and start complaining about decline in advertisement revenue from adsense, there had been major problems in outages and/or something failing on Google Adsense side ?

There were problems/maintenance carried even in past, but in last 3 months of time there had been maximum problems

roddy

9:09 am on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm not quitting by any means, but I have been making more of an effort to sell advertising direct to companies in my niche. The dreadful targeting I've seen, plus earnings that seem to be a combination of 'random' and 'dropping' convinced me that Adsense needs to be what I use when I haven't been able to sell inventory directly.

maximillianos

12:35 pm on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Cutting out the middle man will net you more money. But you are also taking on more work. Earnings and rates are dropping for a reason, advertisers are scaling back their budgets. This is not a problem that will be solved by selling ads directly to the same companies that are scaling back.

I'll gladly pay G a 15-20% cut for managing all the advertisers on my site. The workload that would be required of me to do all thatmyself is not worth the headache and time. I'd rather focus on growing my sites and starting new sites.

farmboy

1:12 pm on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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...if anyone had actually found a program that beat AdSense, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops...

Not necessarily.

For the sake of conversation, let's say the following is a hypothetical:

I have a site about red widgets. Red widgets is a niche topic. I have a lot of information about red widgets because I worked in the industry for 20 years. I used a lot of my own knowledge developed over 20 years of experience when building my site on red widgets.

A new PPC program comes along that was designed specifically for widget sites in general and works very well on my red widgets site - so well that it outperforms AdSense and I eventually remove AdSense from the site.

I wouldn't go around shouting it from the rooftops for two reasons:

(1) Unless someone has a widgets site, it wouldn't do them any good. And for those who do have a widgets site, the PPC company will eventually be contacting them anyway

(2) I would know that there is no shortage of people who are chasing dollars. If those people learned about the niche PPC program for widgets sites but didn't have a widgets site, they would throw something up to try and make a buck. During their "research" for building this site, they just might find my site and decide to "borrow" some of my content that I spent years developing. I would be crazy to open the door and invite something like that.

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As to the original question of this thread, Yes, for some people now is a good time to quit AdSense. For some other people, it's always a good time to quit AdSense.

FarmBoy

FattyB

3:44 pm on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I think finding a network that makes more than Adsense is easy, if you are including images.

If you are talking text only then it becomes trickier. All our graphical ads make more than our Adsense spot but we have not replaced it as it is text only and I have yet to find something better...even with a fall from five figures per month a few years ago down to lower half of 4 now.

On our main sites Adsense has been affected far more by the downturn than display advertising. Maybe because it is subject to the double whammy of advertisers spedning less and consumers behaving differently regards clicking.

jetteroheller

7:58 pm on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Atleast, happy with few WEBSITES running on other AD Networks doing much better then Adsense Program from Google.

I did my last experiment with an other ad network 2000.

At this time, I had only one domain. Since I did not change this domain so much, all new content is on subdomains of this domain, I can easy compare.

eCPM of Google decreased, but it's still 10 times higher than the ad company, I used 2000.

signor_john

8:50 pm on Apr 10, 2009 (gmt 0)



Why even talk about "quitting AdSense"? You don't have to give notice or cancel an agreement; you can simply stop using AdSense code on your pages.

If you later discover that your grass-is-greener alternative isn't performing as well as you'd hoped it would, you can go back to using AdSense. Or you can mix and match ad networks, which will let you monitor their performance and reallocate inventory as needed.

roddy

10:55 am on Apr 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'll gladly pay G a 15-20% cut for managing all the advertisers on my site. The workload that would be required of me to do all thatmyself is not worth the headache and time. I'd rather focus on growing my sites and starting new sites.

I used to agree, but I came to the conclusion that Google isn't doing such a great job at the moment, and combining Google Admanager (I'm pulling back from Adsense, Google still has plenty of tentacles in both my life and work) with Paypal subscriptions mean that there's not that much extra work. I'm also less exposed to any random loss of account. I still serve enough Adsense impressions to keep an eye on things - if earnings improve and stay there I can change the balance.

dataguy

3:35 pm on Apr 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

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...if anyone had actually found a program that beat AdSense, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops...

Again, not necessarily...

I'm surprised we're not seeing more threads on this, but with the Analytics / AdSense integration we publishers now have the ability to track CPM rates down to the page, even on very large sites like mine. Because of this, we can find the pages which Google pays very little for and replace only the ads on those pages.

For some reason, when the AdSense ads are removed from low-paying pages, not only does the average CPM go up, the total revenue often goes up as well. My assumption is that with fewer lower paying pages, AdSense thinks you have a higher quality site so they pay more for the higher paying pages.

Add to this that I can usually replace the low-paying AdSense ads with ads from another ad-provider which pays more, so there is even more revenue. In my specific case I've taken pages which have less than $.10 CPM from AdSense and replaced them with YPN ads, and YPN has been paying an average of about $.90. These CPM rates are dismal compared to the other ads, but any time I can get ads that pay 9x what AdSense pays, I'll do it.

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