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No tip for February

Is it just me?

     

chikung

12:12 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I received no tip for February 2009 for optimization. Have they stopped sending the regular monthly tip?

Chikung

Lame_Wolf

2:34 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've not had one since august 2007.
Don't worry about it. They have never been useful anyway.

[edited by: Lame_Wolf at 2:35 am (utc) on Feb. 17, 2009]

signor_john

3:33 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)



I keep waiting for Google to tip me, but they never leave anything beyond the reported monthly revenues.

Green_Grass

5:18 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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How much is the tip?

10%, 20% or what.. I really need the tips, as revenue is down 20%..
A tip would be very welcome. ;-)

C'mom , Google, Tip me , Tip me please..

OnlyToday

6:29 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Look under your mouse, should be a quarter tip there. No tip? You've been bad.

idolw

7:14 am on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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They laid off the tip writer =))

swa66

4:06 pm on Feb 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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They laid off the tip writer =))

And I thought they were exactly the same month after month (that's why I did my best to turn them off).

AdSenseAdvisor

4:03 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

ASA

ken_b

4:08 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Those messages are just pointless clutter.

Eliminate them, or at least give us the ability to turn them off.

signor_john

4:32 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)



Ken, you don't have to read 'em.

ken_b

5:03 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

More specifically, how about....

"Click here to hide these messages."

HuhuFruFru

9:42 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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>What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

it would be great if someone from google could (only once!) look into a website and give an idea how to optimize more effectively. I know there thousands of publishers, but at least for publishers who are making for exmaple at least 2000$/month or so.

jcmiras

10:24 am on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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They won't send you a tip if you are already doing the tip that they sent in the previous month.

swa66

12:00 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Add a delete button on the messages, that's how an inbox should work.

BillyS

12:12 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Isn't there a way to turn off messages if you're getting the same message again?

swa66

12:49 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yes you can turn off getting the same message again, but those from 2007 still sit there taking up space and bandwidth withotu ever getting any use.

wyweb

2:00 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)



What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

I'd like to see no messages at all.

Pepito

3:24 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What is the point to send something when maybe 90% of the people do not look at those tips because are not reliable for us, as publishers?.
E.g. "Placing more than one ad unit on a page often generates more revenue". This could be good for Google but in this forum most of the times the people say the opposite for us.

OnlyToday

11:50 pm on Feb 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I started ignoring the tips after trying one and seeing my earnings drop only to recover after reversing the tip advice.

Hobbs

12:11 am on Feb 19, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

Now that you've asked about 'front end', on Blogger you have a great object edit tool, use it in AdSense where I can for example move down or hide AdSense for Referrals, useless tips inbox, move up AdSense for Search above AdSense for Domains ..
Finally a restore to boring button if people get too adventurous with the interface.

AdSenseAdvisor

12:31 am on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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So do you not read the messages because you don't find the content useful, or would you not read anything we put there? Would you want messages that are more personalized?

ASA

ken_b

12:52 am on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Here's the thing from my perspective. Those messages/hints/whatever are so rudimentary that it's laughable for anyone who has been using AdSense for any length of time.

Maybe limit them to newer users.

I doubt G actually could/would personalize the messages effectively.

I suppose some of the old hints could be helpful if G changes its mind about what's acceptable and bans some hapless publishers for using techniques that G suggested in the past... "Hey how can you ban me for that, you told me to do it, look, it's right here in my "tips" section from 2007!". :)

signor_john

1:43 am on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)



There's nothing wrong with tips per se, but--as ken_b says--the existing tips are pretty rudimentary, so why not just display them by default with an option to turn them off and reduce visual clutter on the page?

swa66

10:10 am on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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There are already a number of generic tips on that page (on green background).

I doubt G actually could/would personalize the messages effectively.

I hope those resources would instead go to reply to adsense-support@G by warm blooded bodies instead of sending us canned responses.

As for the messages themselves:
- don't repeat the same
- expire them (a tip from 2007 is either not going to be acted upon, or has been acted upon)

creative craig

11:04 am on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Adsense for Search adds both functionality and revenue to your site.
You are not currently using Adsense for Search on your sites.

Placing more than one ad unit on a page often generates more revenue.
Many of your sites only contain one ad unit.

Hardly insightful stuff!

rajivatre

12:49 pm on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What kinds of messages would you like to see in that inbox?

I think most publishers would want google to give personalised tips based on their impressions, CTR and ECPM.
For ex. Publishers having few 100 impressions may need tip on how to make best of those few impressions. May be increasing CTR etc.
For publishers having more than say 10k impressions will require tips on how to keep their eCPM above or may be how to put ads more effectively if certain ad units are not performing well.
And also google could certainly answer few questions, speculations in this space for many commonly discussed topics such as smart pricing etc.
(Ofcourse if google want to open up so much).
Many publishers have got more than one site. In this case google can suggest if site A is performing better than site B or something like that. I know everybody studies their stats well but then some times this type of readymade help or tip will just help to notice the problems.
So in short give something useful which publishers would like to read if not everyday but once in a week or so.

sonjay

1:37 pm on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The green "Tips" box and the "Recent messages" box below it have never contained anything remotely of value to me. Yet they sit there eternally taking up space between my summary and the report links that I have to scroll down to get to.

I'd prefer to see them go away altogether, or have an option to hide them.

loner

2:37 pm on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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... have an option to hide them.

That. Or better yet, delete them and get them out of the way.

icedowl

5:53 pm on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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At the very least they should be moved to the bottom of the page. I haven't seen a new one since 2007.

sonjay

6:43 pm on Feb 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

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They remind me of the old broken clay thrower sitting at the bottom of my yard. Someone put it there a few years ago, and it's never been touched since. But at least it's not in the way, and I don't have to drive around it every time I enter or leave my property.
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