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I am concerned about one thing. The email says all related accounts will be shut down also. What exactly is a related account? We don't live at the same address but once a month or every two months I've logged into her account to check on things while she's out of town. Will my accounts be linked to hers and shut down also?
I sent you a sticky. I'm not sure if it went through.
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Tease:-)
The OP seemed to indicate he/she has been logging in to more than one account.
However, it is well known that the arbitrage model is dead or, at least that Adwords-Adsense arbitrage is frowned upon at the plex. If a single Adwords landing page has Adsense ads on then it's arbitrage, plain and simple. And Google doesn't like that.
I'll call on Occam's razor [en.wikipedia.org].
[edited by: oddsod at 4:06 pm (utc) on May 6, 2008]
Yup that is straightforward. I only wish it was that simple.
It is not possible for us to rank well on all keywords. We rank well on some and buy traffic for some. If this is not O.K. let them sc*w us and be done with. I am not enjoying these threads.
We have adSense on our niche e comm site and on our info. sites (which are well apprecited by users). If that is a problem, they better tell us now. That will be appreciated.
What I would also suggest you do is copy sentences from the sites in quotes & do Google searches.
With just a very cursory search I found a number of duplications that were copied directly from other non-related sites. This may also have flagged these sites for human review.
We rank well on some and buy traffic for some. If this is not O.K. let them sc*w us and be done with. I am not enjoying these threads.
I can understand an immediate shut down in the very worst cases, but from what I read here it seems to be the norm, rather than the exception. Their current notification policy doesn't come across like "do no evil" to me.
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They seem to be philosophically against it in principle, as far as search is concerned. But from an Adsense POV, wouldn't they look at that as being part of the publisher's business model?
Why can't Google pick up a phone and contact their publishers if they believe there is a problem? Why the draconian shut down without a decent explanation, or a chance to discuss making necessary changes?
Because that doesn't scale. I don't know what the ratio of Google employees to AdSense advertisers is, but I suspect that it will never reach a level to permit that, not even by email.
If you're selling something then what's stopping you from directing that Adwords traffic to a different domain?
If you're in the Adsense program then you're selling something too - ad space.
2. The OP said that (s)he showed "mom" how to make money online - "Hey Ma! Let me show you how to make big bucks online with something called arbitrage."
Should have taken the cue and dropped the arbitrage model when AdWords pumped your CPC to $10 in an effort to nudge you out of the arbitrage business.
If you're in the Adsense program then you're selling something too - ad space.
You (and I) are giving Google unsold ad inventory and saying, "I'll take whatever you throw me as a reward for that space" ;)
Why the draconian shut down without a decent explanation, or a chance to discuss making necessary changes?
I hate to be pedantic but you're not "selling space", IMHO.
If you were being pedantic, then you'd realize you are selling ad space - to Google.
If you were being pedantic, then you'd realize you are selling ad space - to Google.
Maybe more like renting the space. After all, we can reclaim the space and use it for other purposes, unlike TV, radio, newspapers and magazines whose space/time once used cannot be reclaimed.
True we can't go back and reclaim the space from previous pageviews, but renting space may still be a better desrciption.
Why can't Google pick up a phone and contact their publishers if they believe there is a problem? Why the draconian shut down without a decent explanation, or a chance to discuss making necessary changes?
Because that doesn't scale. I don't know what the ratio of Google employees to AdSense advertisers is, but I suspect that it will never reach a level to permit that, not even by email.
I think that's a matter of priorities. The ratio of employees to advertisers doesn't seem to be the issue, the ratio of employees to advertisers who seriously violate the TOS does.
Google has the money to hire the people and send an e-mail warning in advance to obvious violaters. But it is Googles choice to sack them (publishers) right away. At least, in many cases. I guess the advantage of this system is that Googles ROI stays high and publishers who are not sacked get a very decent cut.
[edited by: MFKaHB at 7:04 am (utc) on May 7, 2008]
As for our own business model, we are neither selling nor renting ad space to Google, we are outsourcing the sale of ad space via Google.
[edited by: Hobbs at 8:23 am (utc) on May 7, 2008]
"adwords did offer to review her account and offer "helpful"suggestions. She didn't reply to that email"
I don't do adwords and have not received a similar email. Are those emails common common? Or was that email really saying "there is something about your site we don't like and would like to suggest changes"?
This is a step forward in the war against arbitrage sites and as it requires a human value judgement it is prone to error. It also shows a integration and collaboration between the adSense and adWord halves of Google, not seen before.
It's not that hard to just read the TOS and then try as hard as you can to meet those standards.
I mean, come on.. why stop the "mom & pop" from running a profitable adsense program but let the pricegrabbers and amazons run away with it without regard?
To me as a publisher I find advertisers with a business model to earn money from the traffic they get from me that's nothing more than affiliates and or more ads incompatible with my goals. I'm happy to see some signs Google might be having the same findings.
I've be rooting for GOOG to weed out bad advertisers, and only have quality advertisers.
