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My website is about an IT topic, in which I have some expertise. I started this website, just because I knew about the topic and started to write about it.
So, everything started just for promotion. I already had adwords account, because I was promoting some affiliate sites, some very tiny ones. Then I decided to create a campaign to promote this new website, and throw like $5 bucks a day out of my pocket. A month later, I signed for Adsense, so there was as point where I was running both, and the adsense earnings somehow compensated my adwords spending.
As time passes, the Adsense earnings overpassed my Adwords spending and somehow this resulted in a "business model" (please note the sarcastic use of quotes).
There were good times, in 2006, a peak, but then profits went down, and down, and down, mainly because the QS on adwords. I didn't care too much, because my website was good, and I was getting lots of free links from blogs and forums, so I was getting free organic visitors, and compensated the always increasing adwords costs.
At the beginning of this month, the Quality Score thing practically erased my campaigns by increasing 99% of my keywords to $10.00, and the only ones surviving were those 4 years old affiliate campaigns, which by the way, have all keywords in "great" quality.
Then, I had a few email interchange with an Adwords representative about this last event, and I'm quite sure this was the one that triggered a manual revision and got my adsense account down.
After these three years, my website grew a lot and it is somehow well known in its niche. I get like 500 visitors a day, free of charge, from the SERPS.
Also, there are like 150 people who regularly sent press releases for products related to this IT niche. I mention this so you have an idea, that I'm talking about a REAL website, with real people reading and getting help and useful information.
I know there are histories about people getting theirs accounts back, at least, I've read about 7 or 8 in this three years of reading webmasterworld every day. But those were cases about "invalid clicks", which turned to be a false statements, so, Google give them theirs accounts back.
So, the main reason to post this here, and ask this here publicly, is if you know cases from people getting the "your business model is not a good fit" that has appealed and get their adsense account back.
makes me think like if they admit they can go wrong in an account cancellation
You're just not quite "getting the attitude right" and I don't see that as a hopeful sign. Still, it's your battle to stage.
Why don't you try this as an "effective attitude of engagement": IF YOU show genuine evidence of naivete, innocence, remorse, pennitence and willingness (and ability) to mend your ways then THEY MAY conclude that you went wrong by honest mistake and really are a good guy who deserves a (monitored) second chance.
Plan B: Go in will all your guns blazing, asserting that they're out to get you and that could be their last mistake, and we'll wait for news how you - along with Dirty Harry, the Dirty Dozen, The Magnificient Seven, Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis and Superman - beat Googlebot and the 'plex in battle.
You might stand a chance, with your current attitude, if you could get DigitalGhost to ride shotgun with Superman. If Ghost can't kick the 'bot's butt with his verbal skills he always has his Army Ranger training to fall back on.
Webwork is a fine observer of human nature, and said exactly what I wanted to get through to you but was afraid of sounding offensive when you are already down.
(he might have gotten carried away on the cartoon bit, but that's Webwork for you)
It's hard to keep it positive I know, and in situations like this one is grasping for a straw to put the blame on others, resist the temptation, even when Google is IDIOTICALLY vague, keep it positive as much as you can.
The appeal form, was not included in the email, of course.
I got that from the Adsense Help.
But like I said, this is probably too simple a solution and hopefully your site is not that much like the eweek site. Good luck.
I was not trying to accuse you of anything, just asking like I said. Hopefully suggestions by others will be more helpful to you.
More and more advertisers are choosing to opt out of the content network. There must be a point when Google will become concerned with the "bad name" of the content network. Smart pricing may not be a good enough idea to support content network in the long run. It is a fact that many advertisers do not rely on the smart pricing, they just stay away.
Arbitragers are likely to fall into the category of sites that does not make money to the advertisers, but the definition of "inappropriate business model" can be expanded towards "real" content sites.
1) the number of outgoing links on the landing pages (not counting Adsense)
2) the click-thru rate on the Adsense ads
If the first number is low and the second number is high, you are waving a red flag in front of Google that says "Arbitrage."
I would be very leery about sending Adwords traffic to any Adsense page that isn't overflowing with outgoing links.
i noticed my sites didn't have ads.
i just logged in and their was the message.
I've had an account for years and nothing has changed lately. I use to make hundreds of dollars a day and now only about 20 - 30, so it wasn't a big loss, but still, it makes you wonder why.
Time to focus on rolling out my own products
cagey:
My pages have dozens of outgoing links :(
[edited by: fischermx at 10:33 pm (utc) on May 8, 2008]
We got a notice a few months back (I think I started a whole thread about it on here at the time) that one particular of our pages (which was a lot like most of our pages) was not conforming to the guidelines and would not be allowed to show ads anymore. They included a whole list of "applicable" guidelines. After agonizing over it an entire weekend, apparently like yourself, and trying to figure out what the heck triggered it, I wrote back simply comparing our page to a slew of others and their own examples and asking specifically what did they not like about it. I got a message back in a day or two mentioning what the original reason was based on the first reviewer's note, and saying that I was NOT getting penalized after all and that the second reviewer could find absolutely nothing wrong with the page. So possibly, just as apparently in my case, it may just be a rookie investigator or someone who looked at it incompletely or funny that banned it by accident. It's a shame that they can cause so much aggravation and loss of income with just the click of a button.
there was no email notice in any spam / trash folders
when i logged in ... instead of seeing the usual
i get a small google adsense logo and the following message surrounded by lots of white space ...
Account Disabled
Your AdSense account for this login is currently disabled. We recommend checking your email inboxes for any messages we may have sent you regarding your account status. Sometimes our messages can be caught by email filters, so please be sure to check the Bulk/Spam folders of your email accounts as well.
If your account was disabled for invalid click activity, please visit our Disabled Account FAQ for more information.
I knew I remembered a case from someone which account was not canceled after all.
It must be your case, though I can't find the thread.
And I think I remember yet another case where Google simply responded something like they really didn't mean to send that cancellation email, or that the email itself, was sent in an error.
(1) Put togethor a report on your traffic sources . You a re going to need to show that most of it came from non adwords sources.
(2) Hopefully your adwords was to drive people to your affilaite revenue streams, and you can show this. if you can, do so.
(3) Admit all guilt, and forget about pleading based on your crime being small. A small inadvertant breach of google adsense rules is still a breach, you need to show that it was excusable for reasons other than size. if you are arguing you should be reinstated based on the size of the crime.... you will get nowhere. Plenty of people lsot adsesne accounts for a couple of bucks of false clicks.
keep pleading your case.
continue on after receiving the likely form responses that don't address your crime.
be nice, don't beg or blame bluster.
if all else fails, sign up with valuelick. I make more with them anyway than with adsense.
sign up with valueclick
None of these campaigns were active at this time, but now I've made absolutely sure they are deleted. For those who don't know, even if you delete an advertising campaign in Adwords, the campaign still exists in a deleted state. This can be convenient at times for the advertiser, but it can be convenient for Google too!
I guess you can tell I don't want that "dreaded email"
Recently one of my site was banned from adsense for violatiing their policies, i have been using adsense for quiet a time, i rechekd my site went thru the policies again and couldnt find anything wrong. i emailed them and asked them to specify the reason. They replied they cant specify the reason as they dont have details.
now i am worried that my other sites would be banned too for some unspecified reason
