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What I was wondering is, if I create another website around a niche with high paying keywords and feed it traffic and pagerank via links from my high volume site, would it then do well?
Obviously the link traffic wouldn't be ideally targetted and I'm sure CTR would be low at first, until it starts getting picked up by search engines....but is turning one major lowpaying site into a feeder site to dish out traffic to minor highpaying sites a good strategy? Does anyone have any experience with this?
If so might you be able to get an idea of how well this strategy works from that? Or did you not link that site from the high volumn site yet?
Or are you building yet another "high pay" site?
Making a site to show high paying ads would fall under that. I would certainly not be making noise about it on a public forum where google employees frequent.
That other thread said you made the site already, and now you are wondering if you should make the site? High paying keywords are high paying because they are in demand. You will NOT get ranked well in Google for any terms associated with a high paying keyword unless you have a plethora of high PR inbounds and some real real good luck. That is why certain ads cost a lot, people want to be seen and they are willing to pay a few bucks a click to be seen.
Do not expect to be getting much traffic from search engines for a new site that is in a very competitive keyword market.
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"Made for AdSense" sites - [webmasterworld.com...]
That site is now displaying ads and I haven't linked it yet.
EDIT: This isn't a violation of ToS anymore than creating a new site knowing you're going to put adsense ads on it is a violation.
This is a legitimate and totally separate site, that I know in advance will carry adsense ads. If you followed Google's ToS verbatim on that issue, any website that was developed after AdSense's program came out would be suspect. I'm pretty sure they are gearing that clause towards pages that are completely irrelevant to the website as a whole and deliberately have high paying keywords: i.e. adding a mortgages page to a website dedicated to adult swim cartoons.
Bear in mind that on this forum (and life in general)one person will make nothing out of something and another will be in the fed ex club . Similar to one post will say "my ctr just dropped" whereas the next person will say mines went up by 10 million percent.
The only way you will know if your site is going to be succesful is to try it. As long as you are aware of the potential pitfalls (one of which outlined above) then you have nothing to complain about
Aside from that, I seem to get the impression from you that niche sites that are about high paying keywords are not allowed to be set up at all, regardless of their actual quality?
That can't be right.
Made for adsense pages with no real content are not allowed. Real sites, with real information are.
Aside from that, I seem to get the impression from you that niche sites that are about high paying keywords are not allowed to be set up at all, regardless of their actual quality?
All I know is that I am not a health professional so I wouldn't set up a website for that topic.
If I were to do it though, one thing I would do is get a clear disclaimer on your website. Bear in mind that there are some societies (e.g. some states of America) who are particularly litigious and any google earnings may be swallowed up by someone suing you.
As mentioned before - serps isn't an issue here because I'm not relying on it for traffic. So the fact that 2 million other sites exist is not really relevant to my strategy (it would help in the long run, but just isn't a factor to my question).
If this other "high traffic site" you have will be passing on visitors, expect your CTR to be down around .01%.
SERP traffic will get you a higher CTR, as the people are actually looking for that type of info. Site X about trees going to site Y about erectile issues is not going to woo your visitors into looking any deeper and clicking an ad about the topic.
Maybe Google will slap a penalty on your other site for cross linking or some sort of strange linking behavior and then you will have a whole host of problems. Who knows how google calculates these types of links, but site X with one topic having a link to site Y with another totally different site could stir the googlemaster.
PR 0 is not fun if you have been spending years building a good traffic base.
The internet does not need another Morgtage, Casino, or Drug site, I think they pretty well have it covered right now.
Just be careful whatever you do and do not jepordize your existing site, it is not worth it.
Making a site for the purpose of showing adsense ads is against the TOS.
Yeah, right. ALL mesothelioma AdSense sites were created for the purpose of showing AdSense.
Although I very much doubt that mesothelioma is one of the highest paying keywords. It's one of the most expensive PPC keywords, yes, but all of the leading AdWords advertisers for mesothelioma have opted out of content match. I doubt anyone is paying over $1/click for that word on content sites.
Click on the "about us" tag and you get taken to his links page one of which is for cialis-I will (seriously) really need to find out what that is. I keep getting spam about it.
Anyone know the addy for adsense "complaints" as I am pretty sure that is a made for adsense site.
ChrisKud, I think that Google only penalizes PR for cloaked sites that crosslink to each other (meaning they carry the same exact content verbatim and only exist to boost PR). Crosslinking several legitimate sites with different content is not a problem, regardless of their relation to each other from what I understand.
What I was wondering is, if I create another website around a niche with high paying keywords and feed it traffic and pagerank via links from my high volume site, would it then do well?
Most of my sites have started this way. I always throw a link to a new site from one of my existing high PR sites, then once the new site has recieved PR, I do a link building campaign. It's just easier to get links when you can offer PR 4/5 links in return.
Generally, I remove the original link once the new site has enough incoming links to maintain its PR.
I thought it would be lower than the million dollars everyone thinks that keyword brings in, but < $0.04 is extremely unexpected.
