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What do you think?
Even if they don't respond, do you think that some posts are noted and acted on by Google Adsense?
Do they take the time to link Webmasterworld posters back to Adsense accounts? Am i being totally reckless by asking such a question :)? After all, I have a family who depend on me finacially.
P.S. I can still live on affiliate earnings, or, at least, I know a man who can!
Go on, be reckless in your responses. It will be very interesting to see who responds.
Do they take the time to link Webmasterworld posters back to Adsense accounts?
As an example, that "no specifics" WebmasterWorld rule that some folks don't quite understand, besides protecting the integrity of the conversation, in many ways also protects those who don't have a clue as to how much identifiable information they've just given out -- often when discussing hinky situations.
There are a lot of webmasters here that are pretty sloppy and post eCPMs or other information that could get them kicked out of Adsense. We don't see or hear that happening all the time.
I think Google views this forum as a quid pro quo enviroment. They last thing they would want to do is hammer every poster that says someting negative. That's like killing the messenger.
On the other hand, if someone seems to be on a vendetta against Google, while making money off AdSense at the same time, or posting about how they are trying to cheat the system, then it's in Google's (and honest publishers and advertisers) best interest to trace them down if they can.
Not sure if ASA or AWA will read every Adsense/Adwords thread - but I'm sure they watch threads regarding new Adsense/Adwords projects and hope to receive feedback. AWA sometimes asks WW members to provide feeback. ASA has asked a few times as well.
As far as linking threads back to specific Adsense accounts, I'm sure it would happen if Google read about a blatant violation.
Of all the topics included in the WW TOS, I don't think any of them say Google isn't allowed to protect its own business interests.
And guess what? I even do understand this point of view: Google are watched by so many people (analysts, journalists, activists) who all want to find a hair in the soup, that they need to reduce their interaction and communication to an absolute minimum. Why would Google want to expose to critical questions and participate (!) in threads that discuss serious questions? That would open just a can of worms.
Nah, it's much better to get their paid/outsourced reps do that and keep their own turf clean.
P.S. Although honestly, I'd much rather they didn't listen to our conversations here. Remember when you were a kid? How would you like it if your parents could hear every word you were saying? Of course there are some legitimate reasons for them to be concerned, but still it's nice to have an outlet for your thoughts and emotions and I bet you'd rather share them with equals.
joined:Oct 27, 2001
Why would Google want to expose to critical questions and participate (!) in threads that discuss serious questions?
More important, why would they bother responding to the conspiracy theories, venting, and vendom that clutter this and other forums? What would the point be? If Google's reps were to say "No, we didn't cut your payout percentage" or "No, we didn't ban member X, Y, or Z arbitrarily and without reason," would you believe them?
joined:Oct 27, 2001
Also, let's not forget that Google has expanded its own Adsense help and support areas, so there's less reason for them to participate in third-party forums (such as this one) than there was back in 2003 or 2004.
arguments with people who are irrational
joined:Oct 27, 2001
Actually no, they have more reason to monitor where their most avid partners/clients hang out, and would be wise to monitor where people are more likely to speak their heart out
I never suggested that they don't monitor this forum. I merely suggested that they'd be foolish to get into pointless arguments with unhappy people who are irrational (or who have axes to grind) and won't believe anything they say.
I sympathize with those you call irrational knowing that one day it could be any of us.
Only if we're foolish enough to ignore evidence that doesn't agree with our preconceptions, as irrational people tend to do.
So there has been unsolicited, direct, contact from Google staff due to postings at WW.
So I think we can conclude they (Google) are listening and may be responding in ways one can't detect.