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Tonight, for the first time, I noticed an ebay ad. The prices on the ad were updating over the course of an hour while I worked on some code. I'd never have noticed if the prices didn't change, I figured it was someone spamming their ebay store but its not.
You can right click over most adsense units and see a long url string with the target url in the middle somewhere. This ebay ad returns this.
javascript:_ADS_ClickDestinationUrl('http://hub.ebay.com/buy')
It's apparently not an adsense ad. Only this page, any browser type. Is this normal? It also doesn't rotate, its static on that page even though the code says its an adsense unit. I have no ebay units or affiliate or anything else ebay on the site.
Either this is a glitch i've never heard of before or AdSense is giving ebay one of my pages. If there is another possible reason i'd like to know it.
GoogleAds.options.google_ads_wanted = 8;
GoogleAds.options.about_google_ads_url = 'http://www.google.com/ads_by_google.html';
google_ad_request_done = GoogleAds.google_ad_request_done_callback;
That is sitting up top of the usual code, but its gone again.
The site seems back to normal. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the quote above what "chosen" adsense account holders see? The accounts that have access to ad units still in testing that is.
Is any of this familiar to anyone? i'm not finding any info in search.
oddsod - hovering over the ad in firefox showed me the link and a popup box with description - adsense ads don't do that. Firefox also said the link was to javascript:_ADS_ClickDestinationUrl('http://hub.ebay.com/buy') when I hovered over it, again adsense ads don't do that.
The four items for sale in this banner weren't well targeted but each was to an individual sale on ebay. 4 items on my one banner.
I've tested ebay in the past and it didnt perform well on this particular site, I don't want adsense serving up ebay auctions either.
The eBay ads are different, you'll recognize one when you see it, on a 160x600 banner its hard to miss the giant "eBay" logo with the "Google" logo right underneath it. 30% of the ad is those two logos.
It was an adsense ad, albeit it acted very differently. eBay is on my filter list now. I'm sure my site helped test this new type of ad further, I just wish I'd have received warning or an option.
Only a few days ago I was contacted by a smaller ad delivery program that has been after my business for some time. They were all excited because of a new eBay roll-out for a new sort of ad that would show actual auctions in progress, just as you are describing.
It sounds like eBay has worked on this new technology and delivered it through AdSense, as well, just recently -- but apparently AdSense isn't having reps make personal phone calls to clue us in.
I'm really thinking we are just seeing a trial run of a new thing. It sounds fantastic to me, IF the targetting is good!
The guy from the smaller company also said it would deliver bonuses of up to $100 if the person clicked on it and was a first time eBay user -- and made a purchase or won an auction. Sure would be nice to have this with AdSense, too, but I'm probably just dreaming...
YM
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What in God's (or Goddess') name do these things have in common? And, really, none of them have anything to do with my site. Although I have searched for something similar (kind of) to one of these things at eBay recently. Are these auction ads targeted to the person viewing them instead of my site's keywords? (That's sort of scary.)
What really upsets me is that Google has the power (and uses it) to roll out new things on our websites without ANY prior notification/permission. These are still OUR websites! We are giving up more and more control over the day-to-day changes by keeping this open doorway of code on our sites.
I guess what I'm saying is that I think it is bad business for Google to just make a change or try something new without informing publisher/partners first. Bad communication, blatant presumption that we'll automatically be 'thrilled' with whatever it is -- basically defaulting every site into 'beta' mode at their whim for whatever new thing they want to try.
I agree about the eBay ads -- IF they are being targeted to the cookies of the computer and what they think the visitor wants to see (unrelated to context of site) then they are NO LONGER contextual ads.
I'd love to hear from publishers watching these ads -- if there are trends that show them this is the case.
For instance, perhaps some of you could go look up something really DIFFERENT on eBay -- say, view 10 different auctions for beanie babies... LOL
Then watch the eBay ads at your site (or others' sites) for beanie baby ads to come up. Or pick something else that will be an obvious flag.
This invasion of privacy (as well as tainting our websites to reflect non-contextual viewer interest) is really similar to all the stories of last year about Google using ambient sound (listening to the noises in your home) to pick-up info about what TV show you are viewing, etc. in order to better target ads.
If it was just a coincidence, then it would be great to hear from advertisers who ARE seeing related context-based eBay ads.
Google -- can't you just create beta for this stuff or at least inform us first, rather than using blog announcements that say stuff like "You may have noticed we've taken the liberty to put something DIFFERENT that you didn't anticipate/approve on your site and just KNOW you'll be SOOOO happy about it".
This kind of presumption is just bad business.
Or perhaps it IS the business model here -- perhaps they want to weed out the independent types who really think they actually OWN their own content/websites. Maybe it is all part of a great desensitization plan to eventually get us used to the idea of Google doing whatever they want whenever they want to.
As long as my text ads stay basically the same as I "ordered" when I programmed the code, I'll stay on. I'd like the direct links to auctions if/when they are completely contextual and targeted, but not otherwise.
This is all so speculative! It is hard to speculate when you are completely in the dark. Google -- spend more time giving publishers MORE information... and please don't roll-out new ideas with our sites unless giving us the opportunity to opt-in IN ADVANCE.
YM