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Google will understand if they find an accidental click from you on your own ads from time to time, but don't for a second thing you'll be getting paid for it, and if it gets to be something that happens too frequently you are likely to lose your account.
Or perhaps with dynamic IP allocation, how should Google know that a genuine potential who happens to have been allocated an IP address previously allocated to a publisher (they may both be customers of the same ISP) is not the publisher?
Matt
I wonder how Google determines the identity of the person clicking on the adverts? What is to stop a publisher using a PC in a hotel lobby to log in and click on their own adverts?
They can not determine that.
However, this is not the issue here. The problem for the malicious publisher is scalability. One click per hotel lobby is not a very efficient business model. They need hundreds, if not thousands of clicks A DAY to really make a living.
Also, with the second click from the same computer and the same location you already have "a click history". Each click adds to this history, and finally a pattern emerges that can be dealt with.
Just my two cents.
We could all take a stab at a figure of how many clicks can come from a single IP address in a certain timeframe before the alarms go off at the Plex but only Google really knows what that figure is.
If I were you I wouldn't worry about it too much and spend that php programming time creating content, optimising the site or doing something else a wee bit more tangible.
Sorry to not really answer the question, but I think you could be really wasting your time developing 'a click-attack proof' script.
JB
Don't send the email. I sent a couple of emails to google about accidental clicks and they replied asking me not to inform them. Their systems were constantly monitoring clicks and would deal with any illegal clicks.
I did not know that. Thanks for saving me the trouble of sending emails.
I do have to admit however that there must be cases where legit adsense accounts are cut and the owner appeals and is turned down...the last post in the following thread by netchicken1 says something about that. Google says click fraud is overestimated [webmasterworld.com]
then why so many people get banned every single day?
Your faith in the honesty and intelligence of the unwashed masses is heartwarming but misplaced.
they are not stupid to click on their own ads
There are many more schemes than that. Haven't you ever heard of stupid ideas that seemed like good ideas at the time? Like the folks who think it's smart to replace the home pages at several internet cafe's with their own AdSense laden web page? Or the clubs where everyone visits each other's website and clicks their ad?
Your impression of what people get banned for, and Google's methodologies for finding them out, need expansion. You're touchingly attempting to fix a non-existent problem with tape, one that has already been addressed by Google with Phd level engineering, software, and algorithms.
i want to make a php sql script that shows adsense ads and if the same IP is accessing my web site again in a short period of time my script wont show Google Adsense Ads for him
There are programs available that do exactly what you want to do. AsRep is one of them.
But really, the simplest method is to have your php script to randomly choose the ad company ... rand(2) ... if = 0 or 1 show google ads, if = 2 show adbrite ads.
And if you are tracking clicks ... well, as soon as someone click on google ads, start showing adbrite ads.
But like most people said, google analysis goes way beyong clicks/ips/timeframe. They look at patterns, schemes.
QUESTIONS:
What are you trying to do? Why do you want to do that? Is it because you are afraid to be banned? Why are you afraid to be banned? Do you get repeat visits? Did you notice something out of ordinary on your AdSense account?
Telling us more might get you a better answer.
CCF
if somebody clicks on my ads then adsense bans me and no proof will help, i dont to go to adsense group and beg them for mercy i want control my ads my own
If you want control, an ad network isn't the best solution. You'll be happier (though probably poorer) if you sell ads direct.
I wonder how Google determines the identity of the person clicking on the adverts? What is to stop a publisher using a PC in a hotel lobby to log in and click on their own adverts?
Clicking on some one else's ads isn't going to get them banned, even if you click their ads a 100 times a minute.
It's 1 / minute or maybe 5 or 10.
is it 1 time per minute or what?
I believe number of clicked ads is only one (and maybe not the most important) of the NNN factors which identify invalid click.
BTW, clicks can also be treated as invalid if you place ads very close to right-hand scroll bar, close to menu (i.e. when user clicks them by mistake, trying to perform another action), or if your traffic is suspicious. And if you get too many invalid clicks you'll either receive a warning email from Google, or site (or maybe account) will get banned.
