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Only the strength of content or idea matters to the readers. In fact not looking slick helps if anything as people can see its real and not computer generated crap.
If web content is king then web design is the queen. A shallow site won't fool anybody but on the other hand, a plain looking site faces a serious challenge in being accepted. Alot of webmasters use both measures to decide whether or not to link to a site. Given the same quality of content, a nice looking site will get more links than a plain one.
So its like this. You have to have something to give that isnt already out there that stands head and shoulders above what anyone else can do. Or an idea that offers something that is new and useful. Etc.
You know for the most part I agree with that but I was thinking about this today and it occurred to me that:
- AltaVista was around before Google
- CompuServe was around long before AOL (and now AOL owns CompuServe)
I'm sure there are other examples and yes, these are anomolies but it just goes to show that sometimes the "me too" sites become the main players.
They offered better results than the rest.
This is how people got their high-figure incomes without paying for traffic. Call it karma if you want. The early days of the internet had many folks offering and exchanging free information or resources. It was never about money. Then they heard about adsense, and got the payoff.
This happened with a flight info site, among others. Guy gets 10K/mo.
p/g
[edited by: Huntster at 1:33 pm (utc) on Aug. 7, 2007]
"The quick and easy way is the path of the Dark Side"
[edited by: Khensu at 5:58 pm (utc) on Aug. 7, 2007]
The early days of the internet had many folks offering and exchanging free information or resources. It was never about money.
It was always about money ... once online payments were possible :)
Define "early days" as I've been online since '95 or so and started collecting serious coin in '97, long before AdSense was even a thought in someone's head.
Define "early days" as I've been online since '95 or so and started collecting serious coin in '97, long before AdSense was even a thought in someone's head.
Tim Berners-Lee invented the Web in 1989, and it had gone mainstream by 1993 or so, when anyone with a SLIP account, Windows 3.x, a WinSock, and Cello or Mosaic could browse Web pages. In those days, the leading-edge Web sites were Webcams (remember the coffee room at Cambridge University?) and a couple of Coke machines (at Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Western Australia, if I recall correctly) that let you check soda inventory and temperature from afar.
We were all trying to figure out how to make money on it even back then as some of the better multi-line chat BBS's were subscription only, you had to send in a check.
How archaic... paper money!
was a fido-net node operator long before the masses ever had the 'net
Hey! netmeg started out as a fido in 1985.
Back then the idea of advertising on the net (web? what's a web?) was anathema. If you weren't there, you wouldn't believe the fuss when the first spam (Canter & Siegel) hit Usenet. It was truly thought to be the end of the world. Nobody (or at least very few) at that time ever conceived of what we have now. Most of the 'money' surrounding this was for phone bills or (as incredibill mentions) subscription/donations for BBS systems.
It was sorta like the 60's, only with a lot of cables and modem lines.
Did you forget to say what techniques are? :)
I said it does, he said not if your only making $50.00 a month, but I tried to explain that I am just having a low point right now.
When I was up to $300.00 a month my site got watered down as a lot of others entered the same race.
Now I have some new sites and the old techniques don't work as well now but they still work.
he still didn't agree but I like I said recently I have had 6 ad sense sign ups in 5 days, one conversion so far and a sign up yesterday. so it still works
read all the post you'll see what I am talking about. I just wished I would have concentrated on referrals too when i first started.
I was concentrating too much on ad sense, putting all my eggs in one basket and now I think I am spreading myself too thin and should be concentrating in one area.
...my site got watered down as a lot of others entered the same race.
And you expected what? Your main site (the one in your sig anyway) is basically a tutorial telling people how to game the system... You encouraged them to "enter{ed} the same race."
Now you're mad that they have?
The site in my profile is not even the site that I have made all the money I have made from and is not the site that got watered down.
It was a site from along time ago.
That site in my profile is starting to pick up momentum thus I am had two conversions in two days and one sign up
I had 6 sign ups in 5 days.
So yea it must of just been slow when I first wrote in.
I've read some of your stuff Wyweb and I don't think your stuff looks the best either and I don't know why you are sarcastic towards me as apparent in this post and other posts.
My site isn't even finished yet. It will look better in the months to come.
There are some nice people here and some that haven't been and they know who they are
Thanks to all that tried to help and to the sarcasm people, I just don't have time to mess with people like you and I am sorry i came in here asking for advice.
if anyone would like to help me more then please feel free to email from the website in the profile because i don't think I want any more part of this website and some of the people.
I have been here since 2004 and don't feel I should be treated this way. So if you call my posts spaming or want to say I am spaming guestbooks go ahead if you want.
My site isn't even finished yet. It will look better in the months to come.
LOL. That's been my mantra for eight years.
