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1200 - 2500 unique visitors each day... about $10.00 a day in adsense revenue
I'm making about $10/day on significantly more visitors than that, so you're not necessarily doing badly here. I don't give the best real estate to ads, but a lot of my pages just aren't that exciting to advertisers.
On some sites I get ecpm in the hundreds. On others in the 1 to 5 range. Depends on so many things.
But how much do you make Genuine? That's what everybody wants to know...
But how much do you make Genuine? That's what everybody wants to know...
All of Genuine1's posts and you haven't noticed how much he makes?
He's told us many, many a-time:-)
"All Your Secrets Is Belong To Us" (c) ;)
He's told us many, many a-time:-)
I know, but I just love that "no domain, no server, no updates for 10 years" story.. It gives me something to shoot for...
...that "no domain, no server, no updates for 10 years" story.
Back in the old days, they didn't have domains, servers or updates. And they had to walk to school in the snow, uphill both ways. We've got it much easier now.
My knowledge of them ends at the Prius, but you could be an expert.
Show pictures of the new ones coming up, write about trends, test drive some at the dealership (might be good source for info as well) and give some reviews.
It's a niche market that's growing!
My personal experience is that I tried AS on a lot of different niche content sites and found that I wasn't making much more than a couple hundred dollars a month per site. Maybe I just wasn't very good at it, but it seemed like a lot of work per site for very little return.
So I changed to a mix of AS and affiliate links within the content and through testing I left out AS on the sites totally because I was making more with affiliate links.
Still nothing earth shattering though.
Finally, I turned the content on most of my sites into ebooks and that's where the real money has been for me.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
How about a site (blog) on hybrid cars.
Plenty of these already exist and are AdSensed to Hell (TM):-)
I can think of several trade widget sectors not very well catered for.
I'll ponder for some more topics.
And to boast a bit, yes we have been consistently doing six figures in income for years with only AdSense, over a million visitors a month in many different content categories. Advertising budget=zero. All organic traffic received thru great content for our readers. Our SEO knowledge=zero.
You want to advertise your combined harvester site with adwords.
Or
You want to advertise your dvd site on adwords.
So...
Now how many combined harvester sites that are info rich and full of real tests reviews and in depth experience and knowledge are there out there to advertise on? Very few! And its a huge profit margin item so the advertiser can afford a at very least a few dollars a lead! And there are only a few thousand sites with the search "combined harvester review". Most of which are forums, junk pages, business directories etc
You stand to be 1 on google search results if you know MORE about theswe things than any other website and have good incomming links because of it. Problem is that in this case its unlikely that you know enough to produce a winning site unless you spent your life working with and repairing them. That site will make good money.
How many DVD review sites are there? Millions... Anyone can make one of those... and thats exactly what happens. Now ads are cheap! Masses of inventory! And a low budget/markup item.
And you have to get traffic to your dvd adsense site when there are 221.000,000 pages found for DVD Review! Now you wont make much with a dvd review site will you.
So its like this. You have to have something to give that isnt already out there that stands head and shoulders above what anyone else can do. Or an idea that offers something that is new and useful. Etc.
Writing thousands of "articles" that nobody wants about stuff thats already out there is useless and hard work.
If you dont know enough to do the combined harvester example then basically you are not going to make loads of money because you have nothing to give!
I finished up with no domain name etc and free hosting simply because I posted all that stuff for fun and to share information 10 to 15 years back. Cant move it now because all the incoming links are what makes it work...
Thanks to some of the old hands for sharing some of this knowledge. Some of us are lapping it up.
JH
No amount of explaining why what I or others that do "get it" do seems to filter through! Real interesting unique content is all that matters. And content isnt just some words you added once the site was built...
I have really not added anything to most of my sites for many years. Apart from adding adsense.
That another buck you'all owe me!
I am going to have to get my intellectual property attorney after you guys.
[edited by: Khensu at 5:55 pm (utc) on Aug. 6, 2007]
Wheres the bucket of money?®
Locked away in my offshore account where your attorneys will NEVER find it:-)
Real interesting unique content is all that matters.
Maybe, .......... IF you have one or more old established sites of the right type with the right topic(s) and a high level of established traffic, and if you somehow managed to place the ads in just the right spot on your pages, with just the right ad formats.
Otherwise there is a lot more to doing well with AdSense. Sure the quality of content matters, but content is far from being the only thing that matters.
I'm one of the many people who had the advantage of having an established content site and a decent level of traffic when I started with AdSense. That made it a LOT easier to do reasonably well with AdSense.
I have really not added anything to most of my sites for many years.
Personally, I too would love to hear how that can help us with site development today. My experience is that there are a myriad of tasks that weren't on the radar screen many years ago that are required today to succeed with a newly launched site.
I agree with developing good content, but, today, that's only one of a multitude of things needed to get a site going. This is especially true in a web 2.0 environment. Ocasionally, I look back with some nostalgia to the days when you plopped a page on AltaVista and the next day you were getting traffic and conversions.
It still works just the same but instead of building for search engines you build for visitors. Alta Vista was fun but easy to spam. You could do well just by stuffing everything with keywords! That does not work any more.
It (said expensive widget) had almost no real info about it on the net anywhere. Or anywhere else like books for eg. I had to buy one for health reasons and couldnt find out bugger all... Well now you can and in massively detailed form! Beats me why the manufacturers sites are so tiny and lacking detail or info.
And its been up with one single page for 3 months. Now it has all of five for about 2 weeks! Its basic html, frontpage low tech like all my sites but high on information and quality detailed very large pictures and information.
It already has a few good links from related forums and one big website about health. And is getting 30 or 40 uniques per day already and about 3 to 6 clicks.
Not really enough yet to get a good average I know. But most clicks are a dollar or more. Traffic is going up daily and I have another 20 pages to do. It will go like all my other sites because of the content. Well I think so at least! Give it a 6 months to a year and it will be getting good traffic too. Age can help but its not essensial. Good content that people really want or need that is useful gets its own traffic pretty quickly. Unless you are talking about another "me too" site that offers nothing new.
Go60guy, it still is like that in a way but now your site has to have valuable inbound links instead of huge numbers of keywords stuffed everywhere.. You only get those if you have something special or very unique, or useful.
[edited by: Genuine1 at 7:15 pm (utc) on Aug. 6, 2007]
Ocasionally, I look back with some nostalgia to the days when you plopped a page on AltaVista and the next day you were getting traffic and conversions.
And that's just how G was when it first started. I spent many a weekend experimenting with titlebars, keywords etc to see how my placements were affected.
This is especially true in a web 2.0 environment.
That's another arena altogether, I would guess that the majority of earnings for many here revolve around informational pages dedicated to specific genre widgets.
As Genuine1 said:
You have to have something to give that isnt already out there that stands head and shoulders above what anyone else can do. Or an idea that offers something that is new and useful.
Unique and relevant content in a not-so-crowded subject matter. Many of these areas still exist, granted they may not power millions of pages per month but researching well 3-4 subjects and getting 1/4-1/2 million pages per month can derive a good income.
Do I need a new one or what?
Hehehe...you need to get out and about a bit more...anyway, you used web 1.0 to find your new friend, web 2.0's just the same with a fancier, free interface funded by ads instead of subs!
[en.wikipedia.org...]
I will stick to web 1...
Me too, there are going to be some serious tears, crying and wailing before much longer with some of those sites...IMHO:-)
Im a fan of incrediBills theory to let the user/vistitor do the writing/posting/listing (ow wateva) on your website. That way the content is never obsolete and keeps your users coming back.
Make room for my website. Its gonna take down google lol
[edited by: Dilly at 10:34 pm (utc) on Aug. 6, 2007]
As far as a killer looking site. I really don't have the webmaters skills. I can promote, promote and have seen my adsense go up while doing it. But I can't make a website. I have my doggie site I am now getting about 400 unique a month and that's over 6 months. I haven't really worked it too much though.
The big guys say focuse on those top paying keywords so that's what I am doing in my site in the profile. Maybe one of these days I can hire a webmaster or at least someone who would do it for promotion or home page link.
I appreciate all the advice and like I said this is stuff I know and am working on
Anyone care to share what site of your own is bring in the adsense dollars and that would help me.
How come no one lists there sites on the profile page?
This is "real good" info that helps people.
The big guys say focuse on those top paying keywords
Who would those "big guys" be?
I ask because that's certainly not what I understand as being the best way to get started.
I'd start with the less competitive terms and work my way up to the more competitive.
When I look at my amaturish sites posted many years back they are so crap I am seriously embarrassed!
But all of that stuff is unimportant. Only the strength of content or idea matters to the readers. In fact not looking slick helps if anything as people can see its real and not computer generated crap.
