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Invasion of the Numerical MFA

MFA leads to parked Domain- Is that allowed?

         

Green_Grass

10:46 am on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have seen a fall in EPC on a couple of high earning pages so I investigated.

I have been invaded by MFA with sites such as ak47, bo87, Ro21 .com

These are only representative, not actaul sites.

On checking , I find they are mostly Domains parked with godaddy.

Is this allowed?

Can parked domains advertise as MFA 's on the adWords network?

I thought they required type in traffic? or is that changed now.

These crappy sites are flooding my niche.

Caught 15 such sites today. Now I am running out of filter space.. :-(

mzanzig

12:00 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Please see my recent thread on a similar tactic. No content, looks like parked domain to me (or anyone else FWIW), run on am IP address next to 100,000+ domains. Apparently Google allows such advertisers in because Google now can place low cost ads across the network while still making a good margin.

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ndaru

12:05 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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[Can parked domains advertise as MFA 's on the adWords network?]

Apparently they can. Lots of them.

So much for Google's approval method.

mainspot

12:06 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yep... I have notice them couples of time in link unit.

I am wondering what's the link of random characters are about.
After you bring up this topic, I got a clearer picture.

As far as I know, the competitive filter now is unlimited. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But even you have unlimited filter, It's very hard to block that unlimited possibility of random characters in their link.

I really hope that GA give us the ability to use wildcard in filter (like the old DOS command).

For example: *top*.* (apply to all domain contain 'top' word and all TLD)

Is it so hard for GA to apply it?

mzanzig

12:15 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As far as I know, the competitive filter now is unlimited. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Where did you get that from?

Last week I was still greeted by an error message when I tried to enter more than 200 URLs.

sailorjwd

12:16 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google has turned this entire industry into a cluster boink for publishers & advertisers.

Green_Grass

12:18 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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mzanzig

I did not know parked domains accepted this kind of traffic.

Of couse G, does very little on MFA's but if godaddy and others accept such adWords traffic as legitimate, .... I could be done for. Thse guys are paying only 1 cents / Click!

Mainspot

I did not know that the competitive filter was unlimited. This is a long standing demand of publishers. Pls confirm if you have an official G announcement. I better check again.

mainspot

12:41 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As I remember, there is a topic in here about Adsense Policy Update.

In one of of the things about the new update, it state that now we have unlimited filter.

Try to find the topic, but still not found it.

Hobbs

1:00 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Filter still not unlimited (sigh)
But even if it becomes unlimited, we need unlimited time to whack all moles

GoDaddy is officially in business with Google and both making a hefty amount on parked domains

Wait until those types start site targeting us via PPC, life will be good indeed, they will be bypassing all Google auction and contextual algorithms and landing straight where they want.

Instead of fine tuning the contextual targeting and the auction system Google is providing an MFA backdoor.

Green_Grass

1:38 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"providing an MFA backdoor"

What back door?

It is welcome from the front door!

On reading Webworks earlier threads about domain parking and domain value, I had grabbed a few and parked them with S*** .

Does this mean I can drive traffic to them from adWords!

I could mint gold this way. Type in traffic is paying 12-15 cents / click on these parked domains and if I can drive traffic at 1 cent from adWords, I am in biz. big time! But I was sure these parked domains needed TYPE IN DIRECT Traffic not PPC. If Go Daddy accepts PPC traffic on parked domains, it is zero investment for the MFA. A domain costs what? Peanuts.. No Hosting required , just park with Go Daddy and push traffic from adWords and get rich quick. It was not supposed to work this way!

I am going to send a email to Sedo to check if they accept PPC traffic as legitimate.

Green_Grass

1:43 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just checked Sedo terms ..

They will not accept the following :

Everything which cannot be classified as “natural” traffic (Natural traffic = search engine results and type-ins)

So PPC is clearly not allowed.

I better check Go Daddy parking FAQ.

Hobbs

1:53 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If Go Daddy accepts PPC traffic

That would be called Hosting not parking at GoDaddy
Parked domains get GoDaddy's pub id not yours and generate GoDaddy revenue, not you.

Green_Grass

2:09 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hobbs

I can't understand what you said. I use Sedo at times but never used Go Daddy.

AND I cannot find anything on their Cash parking pages regarding acceptability of PPC traffic. So I guess , they allow it. What Cr*p.

Hobbs

3:23 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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GG,
As a registrar, GoDaddy does not give you a chance to make money off your parked domain, it is them who beneif from the ads on their parked pages while your domain is parked with them.

celgins

3:24 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Exactly. Hobbs is explaining that a Godaddy parked domain may have ads, but those ads are tied to Godaddy's Adsense account/collaboration with Google -- not your own Adsense account.

If a parked domain allowed users to post content, including Adsense ads, then it is equivalent to allowing the user to have a free web page without paying a fee ... (except the domain hosting fee, which is minimal).

Green_Grass

3:42 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Well... I think you guys are a little behind times ..

the link to Go Daddy

[godaddy.com...]

They SHARE revenue with domain owners. And if they accept PPC traffic.. it is Cr*p

As parked domains on G adWords network are part of the SEARCH network, they should NOT NOT accept PPC traffic. This is totally BS.

[edited by: jatar_k at 4:44 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2007]
[edit reason] no blog links thanks [/edit]

celgins

3:51 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Well, that's news to me! I do remember the domain parking topic surfacing last year when Google partnered with Godaddy, but I haven't heard of "CashParking" until now.

Sounds like you're splitting Adsense revenue two ways, which wouldn't be beneficial without a ton of visitors - as the article alluded to.

Green_Grass

3:56 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"Sounds like you're splitting Adsense revenue two ways"

Remember Parked Domains are part of the Google adWords SEARCH network so the advertisers are paying search prices ( not content prices). It is highly, highly profitable for the domain owner because he is getting a big chunk of the Search CPC.

It should not not be possible to accept PPC traffic on these parked domains. As I said before , it is really really bad.

These guys are paying content prices for advertising on the content network ( pennies and cents) and reaping 60-80% of the SEARCH prices from G . This is totally a big scam.

centime

4:19 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Are you certain that the domains are parked,

Because people do create sites that look just like parked domains in structure

Green_Grass

4:25 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I was waiting for this comment. So I double checked one MFA I caught.

I guess posting URL may be against TOS..

[edited by: jatar_k at 4:41 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2007]
[edit reason] no urls thanks [/edit]

Hobbs

4:30 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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you guys are a little behind times

Yes news to me too, but I know why I never heard about it:

It Does Not Make Sense!

I am an AdSense publisher, can place my code on any page I own, presumably have a hosting account that allows me to add few more domains and host few pages at almost zero additional cost, owner of a domain name that people type in and visit.. and I pay $3.99/month for a cut of a cut on AdSense ads on an ugly parked page?

Even an MFA owner would know better than to join such a program, makes no sense for one domain, and even less sense for thousands of domains..

GG, are you getting us to help you in creating no content parked pages? How was I tricked into this discussion?

No thank you.

Green_Grass

4:37 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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"GG, are you getting us to help you in creating no content parked pages? How was I tricked into this discussion? "

What trick!

I just caught a few such MFA 's which are parked domains on my site.

I raised this issue on this forum as an example of what is for me, a new development.

Of course MFA's have been always there. But I never saw a parked domain advertised on my site before.

Do you think I need your help to create a MFA?
That is a joke.

I started this discussion as an example of what should not be happening on the content network. I guess you missed the point!

Sorry to confuse you.

I DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP TO CREATE MFA's . THANK YOU.

Hobbs

5:35 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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GG,
I do sometimes miss the point when I skip through reading posts, my apologies if I offended you.