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10:31 am on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Recently I have noticed that I am getting very low commission on clicks... like for 5 clicks i had been given $0.70 commission a week ago and even for 2 or 3 clicks I get $0.20 and nothing more than that..

i wanted to know if all of you get this kinda commission from adsense or it is only me who is very unlucky?

11:09 am on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think that from only 5 clicks your sample size is too small to be meaningful.

In my experience the majority of clicks pay these sorts of levels - if not much lower - with the occasional click paying more to bring the average up.

Improve and increase your content. Promote your site to increase traffic. When you are achieving 100's or 1000's of clicks you will see some more meaningful statistics.

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11:22 am on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If you are truly unhappy with the payout per clicks that I drool over then go find another ad company.

[edited by: martinibuster at 1:15 am (utc) on Feb. 12, 2007]
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Phparion

To answer your legitimate question without the sarcasm...

Yes, the payout from G is low compared to Y.
I suggest you do your research and study the threads.
The payout for G ads depends on type of business, bids from advertisers, ad placement, local or national focus...etc, etc.

I agree with Pengi post...you need more traffic to get meaningful stats.
Please keep posting your questions as most folks on this forum want to be helpful.
Good luck, Fish Texas

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I just made a similar post...I did make a few changes, although i'm not sure if it was the cause .. yesterdays payout was literally 20 x's better...

Ps..Nice answer Ann!

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I don't see how you are adding anything Fish,

Ann's advice is to go look for better payout for his 10 clicks is legitimate sound advice, and yes, probably Google would rather not fuss over the 40 clicks per month, you only seconded Pengi's advice for more traffic, which I agree with by the way.

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I don't see how you are adding anything Fish

I think Fish's comment was polite, useful and well made, actually. Even if only to encourage someone to keep posting questions and not be intimidated by sarky comments.

I agree in many niches 20c per click is actually very good, but how will phparion know this without asking the question?

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Wasn't very nice Hobbs... Fish was just trying to be helpful!
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I am with Fish on this.

BTW a PPC of 20 Cents is not bad and quite good, if you can maintain it over say 100-200 clicks / day.

It is my experience that websites on financial topics pay better, to the tune of 50 cents to 2 Dollars and even higher but the competition is fierce.

Keep developing legitimate traffic and see your income grow.

3:40 pm on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Actually phparion and anyone new is better served with solid advice that just being nice and encouraging, yes give those out too, but help them first.

Yeah, usually I'm 'nicer' than that, it's just the comment about sarcasm while not adding much ticked me off.

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Ann! thanks for recommending me to see for another advertiser if i am unhappy with G ..

@Hobbs thanks for the nice suggestion about increasing traffic and working more on creating more attractive contents.

btw I never said in my previous post that I get 5 clicks max per day I just said that I have noticed that for 5 or so clicks I get under 1 $ commission and as I am not a SEO geek so I thought to discuss it here..

anyway, I was using channels before and commission rate was good then I read a post on WebmasterWorld about removing channels to increase commissions and I did so and unlickily that is turning to affect my earnings in opposite direction.. so I am still confused whether I should get the channels back on pages?

[edited by: martinibuster at 3:10 am (utc) on Feb. 12, 2007]
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The fact is that you are getting a much higher EPC than many of us, and you are "very unhappy" with what you consider "very low commissions". The question is, how do you know that these are very low commissions without looking elsewhere? Is it just because you are sure that they should pay you more? Or is it that you happened to notices a small clump of low paying clicks mixed in with your normal higher paying clicks?

The way to know that they are paying you less than others, is to go sign up with someone else and see what they are paying. Of course, if the others are paying you so much more, why come back to AdSense after that.

As for the range, I get anywhere from less than a penny per click to almost $2. Of course I would like to have more of the $2 clicks, but a lot of my topics just don't pay that well. When certain low paying pages rank well in the search engines, my average EPC can drop well below 10 cents, but I look at what I am taking home and the total payout has gone up. That's the number that I care about.

[edited by: martinibuster at 2:29 am (utc) on Feb. 12, 2007]

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anyway, I was using channels before and commission rate was good then I read a post on WebmasterWorld about removing channels to increase commissions and I did so and unlickily that is turning to affect my earnings in opposite direction.. so I am still confused whether I should get the channels back on pages?

It probably won't make a bit of difference.

Also, don't believe everything that you read here: Just because the sun goes down when somebody says "Let's have a Martini" doesn't mean that gin influences the rotation of the earth. :-)

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How do you know that the commission rate was not exactly the same in all cases? Are you in private communication with the advertiser so you know exactly what they are bidding at every time of day and day of week?

When I buy ad space, I do not bid the same at all times of day or days of week, and I certainly experiment with different bid amounts. I don't see how any publisher showing my ads could have any clue whatsoever what commission Google is paying on those clicks.

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about the fellow who adviced on the channels.. in fact I read a very long thread on WebmasterWorld, i forgot its link, where the gentleman advised to remove channels and it will increase the commissions with so much confidence that i did it :D...

so not sure if anyone of you has noticed any difference in commission by using or removing channels on his sites?

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6:32 pm on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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where the gentleman advised to remove channels and it will increase the commissions with so much confidence that i did it :D...

Talk about irony, that was ann's thread.

Here's the thread
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$0.14 average over 5 clicks is pretty much par for the course.

[edited by: jatar_k at 1:43 pm (utc) on Feb. 12, 2007]
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6:43 pm on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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@rocker: you are the man!

so this is Ann in fact who convinced me to remove channels and now instead of helping passing out so much negative remarks about my simple and nobel post in a nice language where i wanted to discuss my problem or my mis-perception about the commission rate :) .. anyway No Offence Ann.. in fact you are the best person to answer my this thread..

i followed your that other thread in which you talked about your theory of removing channels to increase commission and I did it but now I am experiencing low commissions ... after discussing it here with other fellows now one thing is clear to me that the commission i am getting now is neither bad..

so how do you see this matter? do you think it has do anything with channels thing? bcz I did have better commission rate as compared to now I have..

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i wanted to know if all of you get this kinda commission from adsense or it is only me who is very unlucky?

From what others have posted here I'm not sure I'd see you as being all that unlucky. 7 - 14 cents per click is not all that bad.

I tell folks I live in the 5 - 10 cent store at AdSense, because that's what a lot of my clicks seem to earn on average. Not a lot per click, but get enough clicks and it all adds up.

On the other hand, I can empathize with you to some extent having seen one section of my site drop from getting $1+ clicks for a year and a half and then falling off to .50 cents a click or so.

That wasn't fun, but that sort of thing can happen when even a single advertizer drops their bids or opts out of advetizing on the content network.

Life goes on.

In the meantime, if you have more than one adblock on a page, you might want to consider reducing how many adblocks per page you use.

Or if you have only one adblock but it's one of the bigger ad blocks, you might want to think about changing to a smaller size. That might help you by limiting the ads shown to the ones Google thinks are most likely to be the most profitable (highest epc/most clicks, etc).

Another option relates to placement on your page. It might help to split a big adblock into 2 smaller adblocks, one at the top of an article/page/whatever and one at the bottom. That way you limit the ads shown, but still get the advantage of having ads in different locations on the page.

If those last couple paragraphs sound like conflicting advice, it's because they are. There isn't one single best answer for everyone.

Except try some options and see what works best for you.

Personally I think it's usually better to settle on a "best average" page layout and the work more on adding more pages, if adding pages to your site makes sense at all.

6:48 pm on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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phparion,

You have now made it onto my list of people who deserve no help after that last comment. I wish for you to discover the joys of 2 cent clicks after a post like that.

Oh yeah, once you make your post, you get no say about who posts on it. deal with it.

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Yes, irony indeed!

> am still confused whether I should get the channels back on pages?

Ask Ann

>@Hobbs thanks for the nice suggestion

It was not me it was Pengi

>everyone who has problem with my this thread pls stop posting

Not a good way to ask for advice down here PhpArion, and I suspect anyone who initially wanted to help you won't now after your comments about Ann, a long respected old member in WebMasterWorld.

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@ken_b: i will work on your advice thanks.

come on guys, IT is a very vast field and if you know about some specific wing of IT and you start to reply like this then you dont understand the meaning of forum really, sorry to say..

I have over 8000 posts on another very famous forum where i have very high reputation and whenever i have time i reply simple html questions to complex WDDX question.

If someone starts a thread you can never expect him to say everything perfect in the thread .. bcz if he knows everything then why the heck he will start a thread? i had problem / confusions / misperceptions or whatsoever so i started thread and I appreciate anyone who added to my knowledge. I respect all members whether junior with one post or moderator of the forum and i expect respect in return.. well this is how i am..

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BigDave you interpreted Ann comments in a very good way to make a wrong thing looks correct and mine to be horrible lolz..

i didnt say anything in sexiest or rude way to her you need to improve your sense of humour.

and you said that you dont have any reputation for me .. do i care? on the other hand i do have respect for you and if you ask any question in php forum i will be the first to answer...

anyway, dont want to make anymore waves here.. i wish my this post will be the last one of this thread.

7:18 pm on Feb 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Let's just call this Fish's fault and fold the page :-)
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i didnt say anything in sexiest or rude way.

There's a difference between "sexiest" and "sexist," and it's easier to gauge the latter than the former online :-)

Getting back to the orginal topic of this thread, I agree that, if you aren't happy with your AdSense earnings, you should look at the alternatives. And if the alternatives don't pay as well as AdSense does, that should tell you something about what your traffic is worth to advertisers. (And no, I'm not saying that to be blunt; I'm simply pointing out a logical conclusion that many AdSense publishers have trouble grasping.)

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well i am happy with adsense as i heard here that the commission rate i am getting is fair and this is why i started this thread to hear the point of view of other fellows who know more about SEO than me.. thanks Euro for the piece of advice.
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Gezzzz Folks...I'll take the blame...Let's move on...:-)
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Possible solutions to your problems:

(1) How do you judge "5 clicks = $0.70 commission" is very low?

Have you ever advertised on Adwords? If you did then how much did you pay per click for visitors to visit your site?

If you as an advertiser is only willing to pay 0.10 per click then do not be disappointed if you are only earning $0.70 commission for 5 clicks.

(2) Do you know that different advertisers are paying different amount of money per click?

Some advertisers are willing to pay $0.10 per click while others $0.50 and another $1.00 ... etc.

So you might get $0.70 commission for 5 clicks today, while tomorrow that 5 clicks could equal $2.00 and the day after tomorrow that 5 clicks could only generate $0.50.

i wanted to know if all of you get this kinda commission from adsense or it is only me who is very unlucky?

(3) What kind of site are you running?

If you are running a celebrity site please do not compare your earning with those running travel sites, or finance sites or tech sites. If you are very unhappy with your income then abandon your site and develop another web site with another kind of content that could generate more income.

(4) Other than Adsense, have you tried other affiliate programs?

Have you tried Linkshare, Amazon, CJ, BeFree (now CJ) etc? Do they pay more than Adsense? If you are really unhappy with your earning right now then it is time for you to try other affiliate programs to see your potential with them.

As for me, Adsense is the best online advertising ever for web publishers. Is there any that is better than Adsense? Please let me know.

If only you knew how much I earned for 500,000 page impressions with one famous affiliate program, I think you will not complain with the $0.70 commission that you earned for that 5 clicks.

Make money while you can and count your blessing.

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whew - thread went pretty far off track in a hurry. No need for major pontification on keep/no keep - lets just lock it and move on.

...Please don't feed the trolls.

 

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