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Friend adding his AdSense to my site

Will there be any problems with that if my adsense was there before?

         

wfernley

8:28 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hey everyone,

I had AdSense on one of my websites but I removed it because smart pricing was effecting the rest of my sites. My friend wants to create an AdSense account and add adsense adds to my site because he helps work on it.

Considering my ads were on the site before, is it possible for him to apply for an adsense account and place it on the site?

Some other questions I have are:
- Will this get my present account banned?
- Is there anything wrong with doing this?
- Will Google not allow him to create an account because ads were already on the site before through my account.

The reason I removed the ads was because the CTR was low and the site is a gaming site. I didn't want smart pricing lowering my other high paying sites on my account.

Please let me know if this would work without raising any flags with google :)

Thanks in advance for your help!

Wes

europeforvisitors

8:38 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)



Why not ask Google Support? That's your safest bet.

wfernley

8:43 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Very true ;)

Marcia

9:44 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The friend has to apply naming the site he's applying for, which has to be a site belonging to him, or (paraphrased) that he has permission to "control."

My guess is that being a search engine, they can easily check prior history on any site, since people who get removed from their program sometimes take measures to get ads back on in "creative" ways - so cross-checking may possibly be a way to protect against any kind of fraud or double-dealing.

Surmising that sites are cross checked for history in the program, if there's a match it's then just as easy to then check for whois information.

These are just assumptions, figuring that they must have automated controls in place for fraud detection. But if this site is still under your name and there's a history of having run Adsense, that makes the friend's applying with that site look questionable as to legitimacy - it would to me.

In actuality, helping isn't owning or being in conrol of something, any more than someone coming in to help around your house doesn't make them the "homeowner." If this friend doesn't have any site of his very own, he's not really a website publisher.

This sounds too much like "getting around" things and is too close to a TOS violation for my taste. I wouldn't do it, I'd just run another program on that site if I didn't want Adsense on it.

wfernley

10:13 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thank you for your post. It did make a lot of sense.

He is not a web publisher and knows nothing about designing a website. He does help out within the community of the site though.

I can understand how Google can look at it as a questionable matter. I have emailed them regarding it so we will see what they say. My current account is in good standings and I even had an offer a few months ago to help optimize my website from Google.

I feel if they do look into the background of the site, they will see it was in good standing with my account so it shouldn't look like I'm trying to find a loop hole in their TOS. I didn't do anything wrong before that prompted this. I just want to give him the Ads to make money.

The website would remain in my name and on my servers.

If Google doesn't like it then I will have to figure something else out. What are other advertising methods available to me? I'm in Canada so I always thought it was just AdSense. My friend is in the US though so I'm sure if it was in his name, there are many options available to him.

sailorjwd

10:53 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a good way to either lose a friend or lose a business - likely both.

Marcia

11:01 pm on Dec 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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wfernley, you and your site would look OK, but your friend applying with what Google knows is your site isn't really a valid, legitimate application. If he's helpful around the community, giving an occasional gift would be a nice way to express appreciation - even an Amazon gift certificate.

As far as other options are concerned, that would depend entirely on the topic and demographic of the site. There's YPN, other contextual programs, and also some affiliate programs that possibly could work if they fit the audience and subject and are done well.

farmboy

12:30 am on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had AdSense on one of my websites but I removed it because smart pricing was effecting the rest of my sites. My friend wants to create an AdSense account and add adsense adds to my site because he helps work on it.

My first thought is if you think smartpricing was hurting you before, why would you want to return to that?

But that aside, maybe you could designate a channel for your friend to use whenever he puts up an AdSense ad. At the end of the month, see the total revenue from that channel and write your friend a check for a percentage of the total.

FarmBoy

paul2yall

1:32 am on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My first thought is if you think smartpricing was hurting you before, why would you want to return to that?

He doesn't want his account associated with that one website because he thinks it's the cause of his smart-pricing. Yet he still wants to earn income from that site. So a "friend" will sign up for a new account and place ads on that site, earning income without smart-pricing his other sites.

wfernley

4:18 am on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think you guys are loosing the point of why I am doing this. I don't want to tie this website with my current account because smart pricing was effecting my account because of this site. I would rather have no AdSense on this site than have it tied into my current account. It would even be more profitable this way.

I trust my friend and if things for some reason do go wrong, I pull the AdSense ads off because I will still be in control of the site. Also, if setting up another account doesn't work out then I'm forgetting about putting AdSense on the site. I want to make sure Google is 100% OK with this which is why I emailed them. If they say I'm not allowed, then case closed :)

arikgub

10:19 am on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Few months ago I asked Google if it is ok to rotate ads from two different adsense accounts on the same page, and they replied it is OK as long as the both are not shown at the same time. But if after the page is reloaded, the other account's ads show up, it is fine.

So why would they have a problem in your case?

noodlebox

11:29 am on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)



Reality: he wants to bypass smartpricing by creating multiple accounts

Consiquence: google ban all accounts and blacklist website

Answer: put your old adsense account on your pages and accept it, your friends account will be smartpriced anyway

barns101

1:44 pm on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The reason I removed the ads was because the CTR was low and the site is a gaming site.

Gaming as in gambling? Or gaming as in playing online games? The first is forbidden by AdSense TOS.

wfernley

2:28 pm on Dec 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Answer: put your old adsense account on your pages and accept it, your friends account will be smartpriced anyway

but if his account gets smart priced then it only effects that website and not my other 10 websites.

Gaming as in gambling? Or gaming as in playing online games? The first is forbidden by AdSense TOS.

Gaming as in its a website about a game. It offers guides and other resources to learn how to play and play effectively ;)

wfernley

3:29 pm on Jan 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just an update....

I got an email from Google that said there is no problem doing this. Considering the website and current account are in good order, my friend should have no problem registering a new account with the website.