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The site has about 5.000 visitors per day. The site made about $4.000 per month with Google Adsense.
Then a partner of the owner suposedly commited click fraud on his own website. AdSense was taken off, there now is very limited income on the website.
Will it be possible to get Adsence back on the site, somehow? If I say I am the new owner? Even if I do not know the Google founders personally?
I would also ask AdSense Support how to proceed with website ownership change.
However, if Google believes you are associated with the Banned Account holder, you may find yourself banned as well, so go very carefully.
What exactly do you mean by "participating in a website without art"?
If the site is changed significantly the 5,000 visits per day and/or the AdSense earnings may not continue.
If the account holder was banned for click fraud, was any of the trafic or income fraudulent.
Is it possible that the layout of the site itself is part of the problem (although this would be more likely to be described as "invalid clicks")?
I would treat any historic data about the site's performance as potentially irrelevant and would consider any investment into the site as high risk".
Ask yourself: "would I be better to invest time and money in building my own site?"
I am thinking about participating in a website about art...Will it be possible to get Adsence back on the site, somehow? If I say I am the new owner?
Sorry for parsing your words so carefully, but IMO this sounds more like a scam on Google than a true transfer of ownership. Google is smarter than that. They'll almost certainly sniff it out and you'll be banned as well.
The site has about 5.000 visitors per day. The site made about $4.000 per month with Google Adsense.
No wonder its banned!
That's an average of less than 3 cents per visit. You'd need some good ads and a good click through rate, but I blieve these figures are achievable legitimately.
I think the "traffic-earnings ratio" should be ok. I think both concept and content are quite unique, will post name when/ if I am a bit further.
I am affraid that if I participate (which may be buy, or invest time, to be discussed in 2007) in the site, it will not be worthwile if Google Adsense cannot be used, as I do not know of other systems that can make decent money from a worldwide audience. (Overture/ Yahoo will start with a system, but you still need to be based in the USA, I am European).
Another possibility for an art sitewould be a sponsorship by a major worldwide operating big company, a bank: an auctionhouse like Sothebys, etc. But that will take time and negotiations.
Therefore my previous question: can I somehow get Adsense back?
Regards, Berend
That's an average of less than 3 cents per visit.
The keyword is "visit" not click. This sounds bogus to me too. It would have to have content so worthless that nearly all the visitors clicked away from the site, and/or have a very high CPC.
But, you do get the benefit of the doubt.
I would not mess with this deal at all if I were you. It is playing with fire. I would not want to be associated with ANY banned from adsense sites. It's just not safe.
For an arts-related website in general I'd expect no more than maybe $5 CPM (I've got one), but that could be achieved if the website averages as few as 5 pagesviews per visit. Nothing obviously suspicious about stats like that.
As for the OP's question, Google will almost certainly NOT let you back in without a complete change of ownership, maybe not even then. And as I said earlier, if the original team is still involved behind the scenes there is an excellent chance you will simply earn yourself a lifetime ban as well.
P.S. The sponsorship thing is obviously the way to go, but good luck dealing with companies like Sotheby's. I spoke with them one time, and despite the fact they've had a few train wrecks on the way to not having much of an impact online, they went out of their way to be as dismissive as possible. I think they were going for insulting, but they had so little going on that it didn't rise to that level.
