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My oh my, YPN & Adsense EPC (A comparison)

2 sites in same industry. YPN Site = $1.00 EPC, Adsense Site = $0.11 EPC

         

dreamache

6:15 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ok to reiterate, my friend runs a site that deals with the *same* type of content. The only notable differences about his site is that his site has been around for *years* longer, and has a slightly different traffic crowd as his site is based around a product that has been available for a long time. But it's still the same type of traffic concerning demographics and interests.

His Advertiser: YPN
His Clicks Per Day: 50
His Earnings Per Day: $50
His CTR: 0.35%

My Advertiser: Adsense
My Clicks Per Day: 34
My Earnings Per Day: $3.01
My CTR: 0.80%

This huge discrepancy leads me to believe I might be doing something *wrong* as far as ad optimization. I understand there are many variables involved with 2 different sites, but with such a huge deficit in EPC just makes me wonder. I'd love to test YPN but I don't have an account.

He uses text ads as YPN only allows text ads, I recently switched to only using Image ads with Adsense and my CTR has thus increased and surpassed his, however this hasn't done anything to my EPC.

This is really pathetic though. Ideas?

sonny

6:42 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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apply to ypn.
they are better in certain areas

jomaxx

6:50 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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YPN is known to have a high payout per click but a lower CTR than AdSense. Forget EPC. You need to stick to comparing eCPM only.

Mathematically the eCPM is about 4X for your friend's site than it is for your site. That seems significant, but there's no particular reason that 2 sites in the same "industry" but with different subjects and audiences should expect the same eCPM.

Nevertheless it sounds like you should try YPN, unless you're outside the US in which case the point is moot.

noodlebox

7:24 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



His Clicks Per Day: 50
His Earnings Per Day: $50

1$ click? right c'mon he's just lied. :)

darkmage

7:33 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is not a valid comparasion at all.

For a start, the ad impressions for your friend's site is rougly 3.5 times higher than yours. Now, you may have three blocks of ads to his one, or he has three times the pages views. But already this shows a significant difference between the sites - roughly 15000 versus 4000.

Also, if you only have one ad per page, well Adsense is not doing you any favours at about $0.70 eCPM.

dreamache

7:43 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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darkmage,

What does the amount of impressions have anything to do with your EPC.

A visitor coming from a low traffic site that clicks on the same ad as a visitor coming from a high traffic site, is just as valuable.

Also, he has 1 ad and I have at least 2 ads, sometimes 3 depending on the page. Could this cause a lower eCPM?

joelgreen

10:58 am on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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1$ click? right c'mon he's just lied. :)

not at all. depends on the niche.

Payout depends on so many factors. Even the same site may have different payout when site owner changes. Do not remember exact sentence, but it was something like "we cannot guarantee the same payout when site owner changes". Unfortunately cannot not find that piece of info anymore.

iwannano1

5:49 pm on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I agree with joelgreen. Some time I get $5 click per click. It all depends upon your content and smart pricing.

danimal

6:20 pm on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



dreamache, i run both adsense and ypn, and the average ypn epc is only about 30% higher than the average adsense epc.

caveat: after a lot of testing, i ended up giving ypn the worst traffic i had, in order to increase my adsense epc, which has worked out very well.

however, ymmv in thinking that ypn is so much better... from what i've seen, the program is the worst it's ever been right now, with lousy targeting, lower epc, and fewer advertisers than it used to have.

myrrh

7:57 pm on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ymmv

?

Tapolyai

8:00 pm on Dec 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I found that initially YPN will pay out a bit better, but over time it levels out.

In my test, I rotated a YPN ad with an Adsense Ad. Same exact spot, same look and feel.

(ymmv = your milage may vary)

angel1949

7:12 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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oh ... 1$ click

farmboy

9:10 pm on Dec 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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His Advertiser: YPN
His Clicks Per Day: 50
His Earnings Per Day: $50
His CTR: 0.35%

Forget YPN. Forget AdSense. You and your friend should quickly write an eBook on how to get YPN property targeted. Riches are within your grasp.

FarmBoy