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AdSense doesn't work?

Internet Buzz that Earning Money with AdSense is Harder

         

Cosmonaft

9:06 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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There is buzz in inernet that to arn money with AdSense becomes harder and harder. Did you hear something like this? How could you explain it?

cornwall

9:16 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Could be explained by people trying to start and spread rumours

Welcome to WebmasterWorld Cosmonaft ;)

humblebeginnings

9:25 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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But perhaps you know how to deal with this misery?

Cosmonaft

9:42 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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First of all, I'd like to know why this happen. Only then you can try to solve this problem.

UserFriendly

9:55 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The rumour may refer to the fact Google is trying to make it more difficult for arbitrage sites that use duplicate content to make a profit, because those sites really hurt Google's reputation as a search engine and as an advertising system.

Or it may refer to lower eCPMs caused by a reduction in the amount advertisers spend on PPC advertising.

These are two very different things, so what exactly does the rumour say?

abbeyvet

10:10 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why?

Because while they may not have it perfect yet by a long shot, Google are getting better at recognising pages/sites that produce no return for advertisers and smart pricing ensures that advertisers pay very little for clicks from such pages.

They are getting better at detecting invalid clicks, fraudulent clicks and so on and discounting them.

Advertisers are getting smarter at managing their campaigns for better returns.

But you know, the buzz before the one you mention - the buzz that said it was EASY to get RICH with Adsense, ANYONE can do it - was never really true anyway.

Stick around here and you will find that there are lots of people making very good money with Adsense, but increasingly they are people with real quality sites, who work very hard, have other income streams also and are in the thing for the long haul, not for quick and easy money.

koan

10:54 am on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am the buzz in inernet and I started this rumour. Glad it reached so many.

Hobbs

12:18 pm on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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AdSense becomes harder and harder

Hey, cool!
More money for long time publishers if this is true, but unfortunately too good to be true ;-)
But actually there is a faint hint of truth in it regarding new sites and how harder it has become for them to get good SE traffic, hence money from advertising in general not just AdSense.

hunderdown

3:26 pm on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)



If this is true--and it may be from some of the past year's discussions--then it's good news, for the reasons already noted.

What it means is not that AdSense "doesn't work," but that it's working better. IMO.

Gusgsm

4:11 pm on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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More people lurking in this forum and learning how to deal with AS so that the pie gets smaller?

;P

ronburk

10:43 pm on Dec 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I bet that if the number of publishers grows faster than the number of advertisers, it will get harder for publishers to earn as much money.

Alas, I signed up for the 8am Economics 101 and always slept through it, so I cannot draw the chart for this situation.

andrewshim

1:03 am on Dec 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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More people lurking in this forum and learning how to deal with AS so that the pie gets smaller?

The Adsense pie's not getting smaller. It's getting bigger BUT it's not growing in proportion to the folks grappling for a slice of that pie.

BillyS

1:15 am on Dec 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>There is buzz in inernet that to arn money with AdSense becomes harder and harder.

If that's true you'll hear it first here... What's that buzzing sound?!?

swa66

6:18 pm on Dec 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The publishers that publish content, get recognition from the search engines etc. should be relatively safe.

Those trying to scam the system, well we can only hope it indeed become much and much harder for them as they diminish the reputation of both those of us trying to do an honest things as well as that they kill the reputation of the content network with the advertisers.

Should they succeed in ruining the reputation of the content network with the adwords folks before Google get's them out, then, yes it will become a lot harder.

I've recently seen some changes on my site that are promising: less scams (arbitrage, "free" stuff, ...) , more genuine looking advertising (still not there quite yet, but slowly getting better) and a matching decrease in CTR, increase in eCPM resulting in a money earned increase.

So for now I think we need to make sure the adwords advertisers start to realize the content network is cleaning up and becomign more a posibility as the days go by.

Funny enough most of the clean up is being done by killing adwords advertisers that play on both sides.

joeking

8:11 pm on Dec 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Cosmonaft - welcome to wWebmasterWorld!

I love it when first time posters always seem to hit us with these thought provoking questions.

Let us wish this thread please continue.

peterdaly

8:26 pm on Dec 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's getting harder to take advantage of the system to make "easy money." My impression is that good quality sites are doing fine.

"Earning" money has not changed, and may actually be better...making "easy money" with minimal effort is harder.

I think overall it's forcing people interested in AdSense income to create higher quality content, which certainly is a good thing.

Gone are the days of generating tens of thousands of auto-generated pages from some internet database and getting a large AdSense check.