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<?php if (isset($_SESSION['USERID'])){$ads=show;}else{$ads=false;}?>
while they are not logged in the same url works.. but the page displays no advertisements.
My worry is of course the possibility that adsense get confused and I'm once again facing invalid clicks whilst all I'm doing is optimising my adsense while public members don't click they generate thousands of page views that don't come of any value to me and likely increase smartpricing penaltys.
Regards,
GP.
The main problem I see with your situation is only members can see then , so only members can click them.. This means that all your clicks will be coming from the same group of people and this may raise some flags at Google.
You need to be very careful here.
Mack.
If you're no longer in the Adsense progamme, then why ask these questions?
If you're still in the programme surely you should learn to steer well clear of anything that may be considered to come close to breaching the TOS. If you feel a need to ask, then it probably is not a good thing to be doing.
If in doubt check it out with Google first - if they still communicate with you.
Play it straight - focus on content, not on pushing the rules to the limits.
If you're still in the programme surely you should learn to steer well clear of anything that may be considered to come close to breaching the TOS. If you feel a need to ask, then it probably is not a good thing to be doing.If in doubt check it out with Google first - if they still communicate with you.
Play it straight - focus on content, not on pushing the rules to the limits.
ditto. considering your past brushes with being banned, when in doubt, don't ask here ANYMORE. ask ONLY google, and google ONLY!
surely before:
ads shown to both public + signed in users.
Now
ads shown to only signed in users.
... you'd think that Now your only showing the ads on a relevence that they wan't to be on my site and the content it provides them is relevent to the content of the ads.
Whilst public are anyone and not guranteed to want what my ads provide I intend to target those who are interested in my advertisements.
And yes Google apologised and account hold removed (payments time!)
If I understand what you are suggesting here correctly (and maybe you need to work at explaining it a bit more clearly) then you are suggesting stopping your ads from showing to anyone who isn't logged in as a member of your site. That doesn't sound to me as if it should be a problem - but check with Google if you're not sure.
smartpricing occours when users repeatingly click ads over n over again, but it is of course worth noting the only ppl clicking my ads seem to be those logged into the site, not those who arn't, they close the site down and give a wasteful impression on google ads... therfore decreasing CTR.
No - "users repeatingly clicking ads over and over again" is invalid clicking - or event click fraud if it is being done to earn you money.
Smartpricing occurs if clicks from your site are deemed to convert badly for your advertisers - I'm sure smartpricing gets blamed for lots of other effects.
What you are suggesting may help you, but I suspect not much. It may help you persude Google that you are trying to restrict invalid clicks - but only if you talk with them about it.
If the ads don't work that well on certain pages, then just don't show ads, or show someone else's ads that might work better. You did say in another thread that Valueclick worked much better for you than adsense ever did, so why not use them instead?
Showing many thousands of ads that don't work is also likely to attract a slap from RandomPricing(tm). Sometimes less is more.
my site and the content it provides them is relevent to the content of the ads
Isn't that the wrong way round?
As for my idea, I tried to serve just public and made 1$ hardly worth my time...back to serving for all.
As for my idea, I tried to serve just public and made 1$ hardly worth my time...back to serving for all.
Is this the same idea we're talking about? I thought you were saying your idea was to STOP the "public" seeing the ads and just display to your signed in members. Are you now saying it was the other way around?
Did you ask the question and go ahead with your decision regardless of, most likely before, the responses? Do you really think you can make a change and collect sufficient data to decide if it works in so little time?
Why do I feel that responding to your posts is a waste, if not an abuse, of my time?
Everything you say and do (or say you do) muddies the water and seems to indicate that you care nothing about the content of your site or its value to its visitors. Whilst you maintain this attidute you will continue to be fighting against Google's initiatives.
I've tried hard to give you the benefit of any doubt - not sure I can continue.
This is attempt to stop displaying ads when they are not required to be displayed therfore to reduce smartpricing, not trying to cheat google at all.. the whole purpose is that I don't want loads of ads displayed when they arn't going to be clicked... isn't that the whole point, my CTR is as low as 0.15% ... whilst I would want it to become more relevent than that in order to decrease the penalty smartpricing has on me which is 90%+ of my earnings to pre-smartpricing, And I should know as I've been smartpriced like 4 times in the last year.. and it gets worse.
Regards,
GP.
the penalty smartpricing has on me which is 90%+ of my earnings to pre-smartpricing
And I should know as I've been smartpriced like 4 times in the last year.. and it gets worse.
Again how do you know? - what is the evidence that allows you to recognise an "instance" of smartpricing? Is it every time you have a bad day?
Been using adsense for years pal. big difference between a noob at adsense and one who's had it all. and in the big 10-20k a month club to land in the 1000-2000$ month club due to introduction of smartpricing.
So - no explanation of your evidence.
Since when was 1000-2000$ a month big league?
I know I'm not big league despite > $5000 for the last 3 months and actually receiving my monthly payment of >$10000.
[edited by: Pengi at 1:53 pm (utc) on Nov. 26, 2006]
[edited by: martinibuster at 6:50 pm (utc) on Nov. 26, 2006]
[edit reason] See TOS. [/edit]
.. the whole purpose is that I don't want loads of ads displayed when they arn't going to be clicked... isn't that the whole point, my CTR is as low as 0.15% ...
despite all your years of experience, you clearly don't understand the first thing about smartpricing! It is not YOUR CTR that affects it - it the CTR your ADVERTISERS obtain when they receive visitors from your site!
If, for instance, you were to run a free "dating" site showing Adsense, and sent an e-mail to each of your members asking them to support your site by clicking on the Ads (of course I'm not suggesting that you would do this given all your experience) then your advertisers would receive lots of visits from your site - but few of them would convert - hence you would (and should) be affected by smartpricing -assuming you were not banned for the frauduent clicks first.
Sorry to be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs. Perhaps you can share some of the benefits of your vast experience and success with some of the rest of us.
[edited by: Pengi at 2:39 pm (utc) on Nov. 26, 2006]
