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I've done everything, I've tried to cope with almost a 5 figure frozen account and I've sleeping rough, it's not the easiest time for me right now, depression set in because I'm now having to figure out how I'll pay off all these debts (that will occour when i have no money left).
I put a link at the bottom of my site for advertising, and this has so far gained 3 interested buyers, two of which are not worth mentioning as they are basicly 10$ jobbies... the other offers to pay 1000 impression at 0.40$ however wants to show the ads based on unique persons unlike adwords which you pay for the 1,000 impression rate only, we're still working on a deal but gladly they contacted me and it's soon that I will have my first Advertiser that actualy pays great value (provided that its not all unique traffic they want I would probably have to say no to that).
However, despite all of the above things just look like Adsense has been a real stress over the past year... it paid great, smartpricing took away my future, frozen funds just made the little I was earning worthless to me now, and the whole future of adsense to me is as much as disabled, why? because my site is a low CTR 500k page views a day,15k unique visitor traffic per day dating web-site of which appears to be great at first and was earning up to almost 1000$ day when suddenly wham 10$ day.
I would like to thank you all, for your kind support and guidance in the whole of my stay here at webmaster world, optirex for being a great sport, Ann (if shes female I would marry her) you've always been here and tried to make the most of adsense and your articles always kept me holding on, and the mods for doing a great job here and keeping the forum clean, also to everyone else here who are 'valuable to adsense' and are professional and great webmasters who'm all deserve a big hand and thank you for sharing your knowledge and comitment to webmaster world's adsense forum.
My time has come. I will be back if one day Adsense is here for me, as I'm better off never signing up.
Regards,
GP. My love and peace for all.
If you really don't care about your users there are popups and I'm sure there are plenty of CPA programs that would work with such high traffic. Alternatively (if you're in the US) I think Yahoo run a similar program to Adsense.
[edited by: Web_speed at 6:30 am (utc) on Oct. 28, 2006]
Sorry it's not working out for you at the moment.
I think you need to work on providing a good service to both your visitors and your advertisers - rather than complaining at G and smartpricing - it may have boken your business, but smartpricing was aimed at providing a better deal for advertisers.
I've noticed your attitude has improved in your more recent postings - I'm sure that this can only help you.
Heck, there are plenty out there that need a shake up. Just one word of advice, don't try "beer"...I still don't understand this one!
If you're not accepted, there's also Kontera.
Given your high traffic, you should be able to make a truckload of money through targeted affiliate programs. Match.com pays 100% commission for signups.
Or, not already enrolled but willing to apply in their name for your website. In exchange for 10 percent of the profits, he or she can apply for YPN in their name, receive the checks and send you the agreed upon amount.
The success of this would of course depend on finding a partner you can trust. Might take some time, but it's not impossible.
Although I've never had a YPN account, I understand it pays less then Google. But if you were getting $1,000 a day from Google, you might expect $300 to $500 a day from YPN. (I'm just guessing, someone with experience in both YPN and Google could tell you more). That's better then 500k x .40 cpm.
Just an idea.
YPN are only willing to pay for US traffic, so for greedy_player this idea would probably not fly.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this?
YPN have UK advertising, we just can't have YPN publishers accounts yet, I believe?
[edited by: OptiRex at 10:30 pm (utc) on Oct. 30, 2006]
Overture's payment to you will be based on the net revenue earned by Overture from the Matched Ads displayed on Your Site and/or Your RSS Feed(s) to human users within the United States.
They used to make it the publisher's responsibility not to even show ads to non-US surfers, but I'm not sure that's still the case.
A little known secret about parked pages is they often get significantly better CTR vs YPN or Adsense, i.e. 25% vs 5%. I have seen some parked pages with CTR's of more than 50%.
You may earn more parked than Adsense was paying you even before it declined so much. BTW, why do you think it dropped so much? Going from almost $1,000/day to $10 is hard to understand?
GP, the important thing is to not give up. You've got a huge asset you never would have built if you hadn't joined AdSense. I'll repeat the advice I gave you a couple of weeks ago: find out what techniques other sites in your niche are using to monetize their websites (ad networks, affiliate programs, upgraded membership options, etc.) and experiment with those.
From YPN's TOS:
Overture's payment to you will be based on the net revenue earned by Overture from the Matched Ads displayed on Your Site and/or Your RSS Feed(s) to human users within the United States.
Ok then, there are UK advertisers on the YPN.co.uk network so presumably YPN takes this income 100% since there are ostensibly no YPN publishers outside of the USA, ok, I know there are a few in Canada.
Does this really mean that a US advertiser whose ad is published on a site or in YPN results, that if a user clicks on that ad outside of the USA that YPN takes that 100% too and that publisher is denied the earnings?
If so yucky...you don't want YPN GP, or am I missing something here?
Apart from YPN being xenophobic or somewhat retentive!
ypn.co.uk is the Yorkshire Post.
So it is...that'll teach me not to write YPN UK!
There's a YPN forum at WW, so you can read all about it there.
I'd rather not however I am curious now:-)
[edited by: OptiRex at 6:55 pm (utc) on Oct. 31, 2006]
To be honest i've goten over it, if I lose nearly $10,000 im not bothered, I'll start again... Adsense can steal my part of the deal not to mention what they securely made the other %... my love for them gone, and life continues.... traffic is at a all time greatness, I've been contacted by 4 Advertisers so far since my decision to leave Adsense... although poor, one was a rank 6k website but was only interested in 200$ week cpm deals... which I wasn't happy about. (and don't shoot me because I really need somthing bigger.)
However, I'll be working on an advertising system for my web-site, customly designed to offer my advertisers a way to view Statistics about my web-site and their advertisements, I plan to give them more flexibility than adwords offer and they get to advertise to male or female, and age range of their choice... this will take off huge I feel it.
Peace out guys, thanks for the support.. I'll be back to read up on anything else you guys suggest.
- GP