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What Does AdSense Mean by Related Accounts?

How Does Google Detect Related Accounts?

         

moneybagsuk

9:45 pm on Oct 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone have any idea how Google's algorithm might work for connecting an account to some fraudster's? Same dynamic IP? Same hosting company / server?

For some reason they think my account is connected to another

[edited by: martinibuster at 9:59 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2006]

[edited by: moneybagsuk at 10:12 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2006]

DamonHD

9:53 pm on Oct 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same cookies, same/similar (anonymising) proxies, same post/zip code, same banking arrangments, same keyword set, same browser toolbars, same phone number, same domain registration details or lack thereof...?

Rgds

Damon

hunderdown

3:14 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Same last name, same postal address....

martinibuster

3:15 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same computer being used to check your AdSense or AdWords account.

Chico_Loco

5:13 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I heard that some portion of their JavaScript code measures the mouse tracking speed and trend (the speed and "way" in which one moves the mouse).

Apparently no two people have the same "Mouse-Movement Print", according to analysts, thus providing a method by which Google can track users with much more accuracy.

Of course, the technology is in Beta, and the algorithm for duplicate detection will never be made public.

You didn't hear it from me!

Pengi

6:30 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've heard Googles algorithm for tracking associated accounts works very well.

trannack

8:23 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Mouse movement tracking - God forbid. Big Brother - or more accurately Big Google is watching you! Truely frightening - must be a joke! Please tell me its a joke!

trannack

8:24 am on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And on another note - does that mean that the mouse we got for xmas last year has got some sort of imbedded tracking device - or bug or something in it?........Not so sure if I want the fridge afterall now!

Jafo

12:08 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What about when your browsing after drinking a couple beers? Surely this would affect your mouse movements.. If I consume a Saranac, will I get confused for a user that has already been banned? What if I drink Budweiser instead? Is this tied into smart pricing? If so, could some of those getting $12 a click tell me what they are drinking?

:D

ann

12:19 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Try a 100 proof followed by a beer chaser and you won't care what they check...hehehehe


Ann

ASchmitt

1:09 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I heard that some portion of their JavaScript code measures the mouse tracking speed and trend (the speed and "way" in which one moves the mouse).
Apparently no two people have the same "Mouse-Movement Print", according to analysts, thus providing a method by which Google can track users with much more accuracy.

Of course, the technology is in Beta, and the algorithm for duplicate detection will never be made public.

You didn't hear it from me!

Not A joke I think... Google is also experimenting with noise-sound recognition tru your computer microphone... it's their goal to store those background sounds, analyse them and try to create somekind of profile of you... what would able them to show you more relevant adds...

Chico_Loco

2:01 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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must be a joke! Please tell me its a joke!

Of course. Impicit, I thought.

Though, mouse tracking does actually have it's uses... but I just made it up that Google uses it.

[edited by: Chico_Loco at 2:02 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2006]

Quadrille

2:03 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's worse than that.

Google has a way of detecting the dust collection between keys on your keyboard. Some kind of optical measure.

The pattern is unique for regular users, as it's a combination of breathing pattern (especially nose-breathers), keyboard use and hygiene. The system does not work well with 'hot desking' - but it's a dead giveaway for home users.

They are also working on 'finger length ratios' - the relationship of the length of your middle three fingers on your dominant hand is unique to you, and can be detected by the pattern of your typos.

It's this high-tech detection stuff that has got Google so far ahead of its rivals in fraud detection.

moneybagsuk

8:13 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all the input.

"I've heard Googles algorithm for tracking associated accounts works very well"

Not so well for me as they used it to decide I was associated with a bad guy. In the 4th email I sent them, I referred to my shared hosting and dynamic IP, and then they suddenyl apologised, gave in and let me back in to AdSense!

Not sure if it's a coincidence, but suggests that site host and access IP may be important parts of the algorithm.

Pengi

8:33 pm on Oct 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Congratualtions on getting back in.
Another lesson learned and another example of a successful readmission.

Maybe they're human after all.

[edited by: Pengi at 8:34 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2006]

mrSEman

12:27 am on Oct 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Another thing they check is the IDs/ips addresses from this board. They track your posts and also patternize the posts that you read. If you violate TOS by divulging stats information...Big G knows. If you ask "how to" MFA questions... Big G knows. If you bitch about G,Adsense or smartpricing... Big G knows. Worst of all if you post your findings on how you think you can beat smartpricing... well... uhm... you ain't ever getting out. Oh yeah, I also heard the Bills will never win the Superbowl as long as G is in business.